Main IndexAuto Repair Home Search Posts SEARCH
POSTS
Who's Online WHO'S
ONLINE
Log in LOG
IN









Search Auto Parts

HELP: New Car Door Frame Damage Assessment


  Email This Post



meofcourse
New User

May 2, 2021, 3:18 AM

Post #1 of 10 (417 views)
HELP: New Car Door Frame Damage Assessment Sign In

Hi Everyone,

I'm new here and I know very little about auto body repair. I need help assessing some damage I came across while new car shopping. I am trying to learn more about this type of problem so that I can understand how to evaluate the condition of cars.

The car in question is brand new. It was manufactured in March 2021. I saw something unusual on the inside of the door frame when I was shown this car. It looked as if the door frame above the hinge was cracked and possibly welded together and repainted. Several globs of paint caught my eye.

Can someone tell me what might have happened to this car? What type of repair was done? Also could this type of damage make a car unsafe?


Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide about this issue.




Tom Greenleaf
Ultimate Carjunky / Moderator
Tom Greenleaf profile image

May 2, 2021, 4:22 AM

Post #2 of 10 (409 views)
Re: HELP: New Car Door Frame Damage Assessment Sign In

Quote you ">
The car in question is brand new. It was manufactured in March 2021.<"


What is the thing? What does the same spot on other side look like?


Since forever cars get damaged in production or assorted transportation to destinations. It's not my game totally but been around some car transport drivers (one related) told of this as cars are chained down on carriers. Any or all of Ships, trains then trucks. Plenty of "oh shat" stuff happens assemble on to delivery. That pic is too telling and very amature for a fix IMO suggests it not a normal fix if any ever needed.


Just pass on that car YOU can find another, same features close by or sent to that dealer from another, anywhere one can be found.


It should have either been fixed if minor before it left being made if to be fixed at all.


In short, you are buying new so should expect NEW not this for a fix. Minor dings + things do get fixed IMO this car should have been recycled that spot will be a problem if you kept this thing OR worse noticed when you trade it in some day,


T



(This post was edited by Tom Greenleaf on May 2, 2021, 4:23 AM)


meofcourse
New User

May 2, 2021, 5:02 AM

Post #3 of 10 (395 views)
Re: HELP: New Car Door Frame Damage Assessment Sign In

Thanks for the information. I've never seen anything like this before, and I did not see it on the other doors of the car. It was very busy at the dealership and I wasn't able to see any other cars of this type. I did test drive it to see if I liked this model.

I would certainly want one that doesn't have this amateurish looking repair. I was also worried that it might not hold up well in a crash. I didn't think of the trade in value, but now that you mention it, that would be a problem for me too.

At this point, I'm thinking of asking the dealer to get me another car instead of this one, especially because they steered me to this one when I had seen another one of this model on their website. If the other car had looked better, I would have bought a car that day.


Tom Greenleaf
Ultimate Carjunky / Moderator
Tom Greenleaf profile image

May 2, 2021, 6:33 AM

Post #4 of 10 (388 views)
Re: HELP: New Car Door Frame Damage Assessment Sign In

Just make sure YOU get exactly what you want dealer's lose some bucks getting another from another dealer. If you liked that one's list of features specify that.


BTW, smart of you to notice a build date so many are OLD on lots need batteries and brakes right away from sitting too long!


Tom



Hammer Time
Ultimate Carjunky / Moderator
Hammer Time profile image

May 2, 2021, 7:08 AM

Post #5 of 10 (383 views)
Re: HELP: New Car Door Frame Damage Assessment Sign In

After a closer examination of the picture it doesn't really look like a welding repair.

To me it looks more like the roof and the pillar were assembled at this point but not finished off thoroughly. If you look close it looks like the upper section was inserted inside of the lower section. You can see spot welding marks below the seam. There is no other welding visible. I believe they just failed to complete the finish process and this was a normal part of construction.

I'm seeing your location is in Ukraine and they probably build cars differently over there. We are in the US.

Either way, this is a car I would definitely pass on.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.



Tom Greenleaf
Ultimate Carjunky / Moderator
Tom Greenleaf profile image

May 2, 2021, 7:27 AM

Post #6 of 10 (377 views)
Re: HELP: New Car Door Frame Damage Assessment Sign In

Hammer Time > Look lower than the right side arrow. It appears to me that door was forced open WAY too far, there's a mark from hinge making damage. OMG, if built like that others would show it.


Buyer: If all look like this perhaps time to find another make of car I'd freak if that was a legit repair never mind new,


Tom



Hammer Time
Ultimate Carjunky / Moderator
Hammer Time profile image

May 2, 2021, 7:33 AM

Post #7 of 10 (373 views)
Re: HELP: New Car Door Frame Damage Assessment Sign In

No, that looks like brush painting on top of the repair. There isn't much question the upper is inside of the lower.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.



meofcourse
New User

May 2, 2021, 5:58 PM

Post #8 of 10 (350 views)
Re: HELP: New Car Door Frame Damage Assessment Sign In

Sorry for the late reply. I went outdoors to enjoy the warm weather today and did not take my phone with me (deliberately). Thanks for your comments, though, they are very helpful.

Just so you know... I live in the U.S. I am using a VPN and it doesn't always show the correct country even when I connect to a server that says it's in the U.S.


The car in question is a Honda and it is currently located for sale in Massachusetts. It was manufactured at Honda's factory in Canada. With the limited knowledge I have about such things, I could not tell whether this sloppy looking welding was done at the factory or happened after it was in transit to the dealer. When I looked at it up close, it was so rough to the touch that I could not believe any factory would let it out the door in this condition. My current car, a Toyota, was also Made in Canada, and the workmanship is superb, so I am baffled by this Honda.


In any event, I will pass on this particular car and will see if the dealer can help me to locate one without such a glaring flaw.


meofcourse
New User

May 2, 2021, 6:04 PM

Post #9 of 10 (346 views)
Re: HELP: New Car Door Frame Damage Assessment Sign In


In Reply To
Just make sure YOU get exactly what you want dealer's lose some bucks getting another from another dealer. If you liked that one's list of features specify that.


BTW, smart of you to notice a build date so many are OLD on lots need batteries and brakes right away from sitting too long!


Tom


Tom, you would be very amused by all of the research I have done to buy this car. I am generally very laid back, so I think certain salesmen believe I will compromise, when I won't.

I know exactly what I want, and although I'd like to buy a car soon, I will take my time and find a car to buy that I am satisfied with. Thanks for all of your input. I have learned a lot.


Tom Greenleaf
Ultimate Carjunky / Moderator
Tom Greenleaf profile image

May 2, 2021, 11:27 PM

Post #10 of 10 (320 views)
Re: HELP: New Car Door Frame Damage Assessment Sign In

@ Meofcouse: MA! Is where I am, TMK the most sales are thru Bernardi Honda of Natick? Awesome reputation if that one but don't need to say.
TMK, Honda, Toyota and most others live on their reputation and "assemble" the cars all over the place like most. The end game is get them right when new.
That pic showed a lot to me. It's not those company's way. If something went wrong car's never go to dealers I can't prove that now but are or were squished for metals so that leaves as I thought - it was damaged AFTER that and perhaps a driver loading it or just parking it did that and covered it up? Not very well either.
Said before YOU were very smart to check out new as if used! Most wouldn't know date it was made if just month and year. Keep doing that it matters!
This is over for that car but bet it was bent so bad it would leak in rain it's hard to get doors + trunks of all sorts to seal. I'm shocked they'd keep that car so IDK where it went wrong.


Good luck with the hunt I trust you'll find just what you want and not end up with that next time or done already?


Tom







  Email This Post
 
 


Feed Button




Search for (options) Privacy Sitemap