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2009 Mazda 6 - Brakes Keep Failing


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jsirianni
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Aug 2, 2014, 6:21 PM

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I have a 2009 Mazda 6 with about 65k miles on it. Over the past year I have had the brake pads changed on both sides twice. The first time I had them changed was August 2013 and in October 2013 I needed to have them changed again. The same problem occurred twice where I would come to a slow stop and the brakes would start grinding. It almost sounds like someone is scraping a rusty pipe against the asphalt. In October 2013, my mechanic changed the pads on both sides and the rear right caliper. Today while I was driving home the same sound starting to occur once again.

Here is a list of trouble-shooting my mechanic did back in October 2013 ( please forgive me if I do not translate this correctly. I am copying this off of a note he gave me):

1. Pads frozen in mounts - OK
2. Brake has pinhead inside - OK
3. Caliper hanging up or rusty inside. Piston rusty or emergency brake faulty.
4. Faulty disc pads - not often. Rare.
5. Caliper slides frozen - OK

This will be the THIRD time this problem has come up in about a year and a half. I've owned four cars in the past and I have never had a continuous problem like this. Can anyone suggest what might be the issue here? What would cause my brake pads to wear so quickly three times over the course of a little over a year? I would appreciate any help I could get!


Hammer Time
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Aug 2, 2014, 6:34 PM

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Is the wear occurring at any particular wheel?



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jsirianni
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Aug 2, 2014, 6:42 PM

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I'm not really sure. I'll be honest, I don't know anything about cars. I'm just reiterating everything on the receipt from October 2013 mechanic and the trouble-shooting note he gave me. He put Bendix brake pads on back in October. That's something I left out.


Tom Greenleaf
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Aug 3, 2014, 12:06 AM

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Quote"
1. Pads frozen in mounts - OK
2. Brake has pinhead inside - OK
3. Caliper hanging up or rusty inside. Piston rusty or emergency brake faulty.
4. Faulty disc pads - not often. Rare.
5. Caliper slides frozen - OK "
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Noted an ~5 year old low mile car and this already. Your last noted work from October, 2013 is the car now having troubles again or just wondering why the run of bad luck?


This much corrosion seems a bit unusual to me so fast. Bad/defective parts should be noted (pads especially) right away if fit isn't right on cheap stuff especially (Bendix not know to be the cheap stuff) was common once and personally found terribly made backing plates of pads (needed to grind off burrs) and recycled metal of a rotor showed threads of a bolt - all Chinese requested cheap parts.


There's something wrong here. These slides get greased when you are there with grease made to take the extremes and short of dunking this car in salty brine not sure how this happens so fast from last time worked on.
Something wrong with approach, the work, parts probably cheap not as stated Bendix. I wouldn't do just one caliper if one was corroded on one side you do the other as well.


Seems a combination of what this car has been thru and either your request for cheap fixes or tech is not giving it enough attention or doesn't know, not allowed time enough or communication problem.


If different techs where you are going all the time try to deal with same person if a repeat customer and perhaps find out if this person is experienced/trained enough for hassles of this kind,


T



jsirianni
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Aug 3, 2014, 10:36 AM

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This doesn't seem to be bad luck here. As you suggested, there's something wrong here. I take it to a mechanic who has been working on cars practically all his life. He's been my personal mechanic for a good 10 years now. Upon further inspection, the sound definitely appears to be coming from the rear brakes. In October the brake pads were replaced as was the rear right caliper. Thanks for the help!


Tom Greenleaf
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Aug 3, 2014, 12:00 PM

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Quote from your notes "Caliper slides frozen - OK "


Well - since this mechanic has been there so many time why are those frozen? Lazy now or rushed? Brake grease can take quite some time and even adverse conditions and they've been messed with all these times I'd be checking or re-greasing those every time they were touched or many times just when checking with a caliper off.


I'm not there to watch and argue what I would do vs what another would do but it's pretty standard to do BOTH calipers unless a problem right away with a new one.


Done doing crap except my own a loooooong time now. This isn't new tech for a mechanic but parts can suk as said.


You may really like this person and fully trust everything but who knows - he might be "burning out" from doing this crap too!


You said but not included that back brakes making the noise and r. rear caliper and set (both sides) pads replaced. With ongoing troubles the rotors should have been at least the lightest turn to refinish but may not have been touched. That alone can make noises if not done - not always but on the list.


I don't know of this make of car being a problem in general like this so that leaves something is going wrong. Best I can do from a web site and what I've read that you posted it needs better attention,


T



kev2
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Aug 11, 2014, 2:52 PM

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Does anyone who drives vehicle use both feet ?
Has anyone checked the ABS for codes - unlikely BUT quick easy.
Has the flex lines been changed? A common point of restriction.






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