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kristen
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Feb 25, 2014, 9:26 AM
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2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS Horrid Noise on Cold Start
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Hello-
I have a 2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS 3.0 liter, manual transmission. Car makes awful noise only on cold start up's, noise will fade out after car starts to warm up. Makes the noise more so in the winter, and less in the summer. I was hoping the Timing belt, Tensioner, Pulley, belts, plug, wire, distributor cap/rotor job would clear up the issue, but for some reason it didn't. As long as the car is heated up the noise won't happen, like I said only does it on cold starts. I have always changed the oil myself, and I use castrol synthetic with a K&N oil filter. I guess when the garage did all that work they changed my oil so I'm guessing they probably used some cheap oil, and filter. All my research I have done has indicated faulty tensioner (but this was just replaced), lifters, or my starter. I have posted the noise all over the mitsubishi eclipse forums, and this is what everyone tells me.. The garage I brought it 5 months ago tried figuring it out and couldn't the only thing they could think of was it was my lifters, and it just takes longer for my oil to get to the top end of the engine hence the reason why the noise stops once it warms up. I said well then should I replace the oil pump and they said no. The garage also took my main exterior belt off, and started the car to try and determine if it was an external part making the noise or the engine. When the belt was off there wasn't a noise. They put the belt back on, and started it the following day because the car had to be cooled back down, and the noise was present. I have posted a video of it to Youtube if you would like to take a listen to it. Just go to youtube and in the search bar type: 2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS noise. My post should be the first one on the page. It is 2:58 minutes long., and it is by kristenl2784 (me). It started around 80K, and is now at 114K. All work that was just done to it, was done less than a month ago. So two garages as of right now have really no explanation for it, or they really don't want to waste there time looking more into it. Below is the link to my video as well if it doesn't work just type in what I mentioned earlier in the search bar of youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLczt2xTaVg
Thanks for any Help!
(This post was edited by kristen on Feb 25, 2014, 9:52 AM)
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GC
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Feb 25, 2014, 12:01 PM
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Something isnt making sense to me. If there was no noise with the belt off, then should be something that the belt is driving or possibly the crank pulley/balancer. And the belt couldnt be put back on until it was cool?
That said... That doesnt sound much like a pulley or accessory to me. Or lifters... From the crappy sound quality on youtube, it sounds like an exhaust leak? But i wouldnt trust a sound diagnosis over the interwebs.
This shouldnt be hard to figure out. Try another shop?
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Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 25, 2014, 12:28 PM
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How cold is this cold start? What viscosity of synthetic Castrol never mind brand the viscosity counts big time. Was it making the noise when belt was taken off then not making the noise in front of you? If so and techs didn't notice that you need new techs.
GC mentioned possible exhaust which many would get quiet when warm and should be ruled in or out.
Right now I doubt the oil viscosity is correct but total guess and don't know how cold you are talking about yet either,
T
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kristen
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Feb 25, 2014, 12:37 PM
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Hello they did put the belt back on but waited for the car to be cool again before starting it back up. The noise is only there on a cold start. I understand what you're saying they should have been able to start it right away after putting the belt back on.
(This post was edited by kristen on Feb 25, 2014, 12:50 PM)
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kristen
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Feb 25, 2014, 12:49 PM
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5w 30 is the oil I use
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Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 25, 2014, 12:49 PM
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You are calling this a "horrid" noise and just said it's done it as far back as last Summer and nobody can tell you what it is? New techs needed. Damage may already be done just cold makes it worse??
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kristen
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Feb 25, 2014, 12:54 PM
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Right its been to a couple garages and they can't seem to figure it out. I'm guessing it's more external because when they took the belt off the noise wasn't there on cold start. The next day on cold start they started it with the belt on and the noise was there. Since it started making the noise winter tends to be when it comes about more often, and lasts about 5 - 8 minutes then fades out and you can no longer hear it and it sounds fine and runs fine. The car wont make the noise the rest of the day unless it becomes fully cooled down. During the summer it doesn't happen all the time and doesn't last very long if it does 30 seconds to tops a minute or two.
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kristen
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Feb 25, 2014, 12:59 PM
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I live in NH weather is crazy it changes all the time could be in the negative single digits, to positive single digits and sometimes up to 30 or 40 during the winter months.
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kristen
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Feb 25, 2014, 1:02 PM
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I also forgot to add that my main external belt was replaced, and so wasn't my idler pulley.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 25, 2014, 1:15 PM
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OK - Seems to be proven that it's a belt driven item making this noise OR some belts are noisy all by themselves. Depending on where in NH it's been nasty cold (close to MA temps except White Mountains really suk sometimes )
Just because some items on belt have been done neither rules them out but should and if that much noise this isn't rocket science to isolate which item on the belt system is the culprit. Surprised whatever hasn't broken totally removing any of this guessing,
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Feb 25, 2014, 4:48 PM
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Is the ac compressor clutch engaged when it is making that noise?
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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kristen
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Feb 26, 2014, 6:45 AM
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The AC or Heat can be on or off, and doesn't make a difference. Also the steering wheel can be straight or turning and that doesn't make a difference either.
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Discretesignals
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Feb 26, 2014, 7:00 PM
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Someone is going to have to get in there with a mechanic's stethoscope and pinpoint the area or source of the noise.
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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