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Yarisxp130zg
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Sep 2, 2021, 8:46 AM

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Hello, nice to meet you all I'm from Croatia.
Car that I have problem with is Toyota Yaris 2013 q,33 vvt-i.

So the problem is I've changed front brake rotors, I left old brake pads cause they had more then half of its meat left. For couple hundred miles it was oket until I went on highway and after another couple of hundred miles on highway I started to hear grinding noise. It is heard and felt a little when going straight but when I steer left or right it is felt and heard stronger. I tried so far to install new brake pads and it is still the same, I tried to put back old rotors and it is still the same. There is no cracking sound or humming so I dont know if it is the wheel bearing or CV joints inner or outher. Any suggestions?


Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 2, 2021, 10:39 AM

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So far that says a wheel bearing/hub assembly. That's going by YOUR description of it changing with steering also could or would be an outer CV joint if you meant going slow at full range of turning. I'm guessing you are moving along when full steering would be impossible - right?


> Remove the suspect wheel with both hoisted if (should be) only front wheel drive might clearly show which wheel better. Hub bearings can fool you and it will be the other side.


> If this was flooded within a year or so do both sides, check and re-lube brakes all around never done by anyone many need that as a routine part way through life of pads do include time that has passed.


Good luck and please know exact versions of cars like Toyota anything are not the identical car sold for use in the US. That's up to you with the VIN #s you see through the windshield if parts are a problem for you?


T



Yarisxp130zg
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Sep 2, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Thanks for reply,no the sound and the feel comes only above speed od 20 mph and above under it is barely noticible, when going full left or full right on slow speeds it doesnt give any sound noticible, only when I go faster and take a sharp turn left or right it gives harder grind when compared to going straight. And it is alway rhytmic = linked to wheel turning. But when I take everything apart there is no evidence of anything grinding anywhere.


Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 2, 2021, 11:23 AM

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Wheel bearing - hub assembly near certain now.

You'll know for sure when it's out in your hands spinning it that it is the "bad" one for sure.

It can be agued to do both if one is bad. I say NO unless it was caused by some reason that would ruin them such as flooded under water or driving through water over center of wheel hubs.

Reason is it warm to hot normally and sucks in water to an unserviceable hub bearing not from road sprayed water or dirts of any kind. They are sealed in most. I can't know for sure if this one is pressed into the hub you'll need help for those.

Why? Cars sold for use outside the US do or don't do identical things so looking it up is useless for me to be sure what type.

Again, good luck it will make itself apparent in you hands. A good bearing is silent (no noise or feeling) in hand. New are sticky from being made so can't compare - stinks but the way it is.

Good luck again this is always educated guessing by nature I'm not there with sight, touch, feel and other observations that could be fooling you #1 would be a tire can make noise like a bad bearing but wear on it should show it you didn't say.

If so, move that one to a rear tire/wheel the noise would follow it or change dramatically,

Tom



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Sep 2, 2021, 11:26 AM

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Why are we talking about bearings. This only started after a tire rotation. That pretty much proves it to be a tire problem.

If you have a front wheel drive car and you failed to rotate the tires for a long period the rear tires will set a cupping pattern but you won't hear them as long as they are in the back because all the weight is in the front. Once you move those cupped tires to the front under the weight of the engine and trans, it really brings out the noise.

Rotate them back and see if the noise goes away.



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Yarisxp130zg
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Sep 2, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Hi,thanks all for reply, I've tried to install my other set of wheels with other tyres on them and it is the same,so I ruled out that as a problem too. When I spin wheels when on jack there is no sound, except on the right front wheel there is like very light crackling sound, but when I ride there is a totally different sound, I've managed to film the sound with gopro 4 that I mounted on shock absorber but dont know if I can share it here bacause video have around 240 Mb in size


Hammer Time
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Sep 2, 2021, 11:36 AM

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Maybe I misunderstood your title. I read that as you just rotated the tires.



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Yarisxp130zg
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Sep 2, 2021, 11:39 AM

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English is not my native sorry, I meant that the sound is following the wheels spining, like when I speed up with the car the noise grinding gets faster with shorter amplitude or how is it said correctly? You know what I mean I hope.


Hammer Time
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Sep 2, 2021, 11:41 AM

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I understand now. Tom is on the right track.



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Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 2, 2021, 11:55 AM

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Correct HAMMER TIME. If and when use of the word "grinding" I take that as more than just tires do. Mistakes in a meaning of a word. I did say move that to rear in my last post in case that is fooling the diagnosis would be clear and apparent if in front of me is the failure of web, pics and all to compete with being right there.

I can't know how or what Toyota would name or market a car to Croatia if in fact that was its original destination??

T



Yarisxp130zg
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Sep 3, 2021, 1:18 AM

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It is made in France for Eu market the model is xp130






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