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GuiMartins
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Mar 6, 2023, 7:16 PM

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Hi everyone,

Im having some problem with my Chevrolet Spark 5D 1.0, 2011, 180000km.
Its making a hard noise like a severe buzz on the front, in left axle, for already 2 months. I can also feel a vibration on driver and passenger feet, the problem just begin above 40km/h.
I posted a video on youtube so you can check the noise video: https://youtube.com/shorts/ecKSOBCpC3I?feature=share

I appreciate if someone have any idea of what can be


Hammer Time
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Mar 6, 2023, 8:59 PM

Post #2 of 18 (1674 views)
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Definitely sounds like a bad wheel bearing. This is a pressed in bearing so I wouldn't try changing it yourself.

It sounds bad enough that is should be pretty obvious which side when the car is in the air.



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Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 7, 2023, 12:42 AM

Post #3 of 18 (1662 views)
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Late to this party, agree on wheel bearing. Felt both sides so at Hammer said "in air" should be clear which side usually ONE not both unless this car was flooded in water over center of wheels.

You can or should also steer left and right at some speed find the right spot most will be better or worse as load shifts.

Pressed in isn't so DIY friendly but don't wait, these things don't heal nor serviced you toss for new only quality counts here if choices ask for original grade it's not a good place to save some money,
T



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Mar 7, 2023, 12:55 PM

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It's hard to tell from that sound byte but there is a couple of things you can do to narrow it down.
1st and easiest is to check out the thread on your tires to make sure it isn't cupped or all choppy, then rotate them, take it out for a ride to see if there is any difference, also check for play in the bearings while the wheels are off the ground. Grab the wheel at the 12 & 6 o'clock postions and see if there is any play. Also check it at the 3 & 9 o'clock postions to see if there is any play

Then, as Tom has mentioned, while you are test driving it, find a good (empty) stretch of road, get it up to speed and swerve from the left to right while listening for a change in the pitch of the noise.
While turning/swerving to the left, if the noise gets way better or goes away, then you have a bad wheel bearing on the left. This is due to the fact that all the weight shifts to the right on a left turn, taking most of the weight/load off the left bearing/s.


Hammer Time
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Mar 7, 2023, 1:10 PM

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check for play in the bearings while the wheels are off the ground. Grab the wheel at the 12 & 6 o'clock postions and see if there is any play. Also check it at the 3 & 9 o'clock postions to see if there is any play


Although play would be a sure indication of a bad bearing, bad hub type bearings don't always display that symptom when bad. Noise and vibration are the main symptoms.



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Mar 7, 2023, 2:41 PM

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Although play would be a sure indication of a bad bearing, bad hub type bearings don't always display that symptom when bad.

I agree
I've almost never found play in a bad hub bearing. By the time they start to have play, they are so bad the wheel is ready to fall off.
Sometimes it's hard to tell which side the noise is coming from so swerving down a road doing 35 is the best way to nail down which side is bad. I've seen guys pull them in, pull the caliper & bracket off and spin the wheel and you can hear a bad bearing roar a bit.....but that is too much work.... A quick test drive and you can get the same results...

I have had tires so bad, the noise sounded exactly like a bad hub bearing. A quick rotate would answer that question.


Hammer Time
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Mar 7, 2023, 2:45 PM

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This one sounded so bad that it should be easy to pick out running it on a lift but this poster hasn't been back since the original post so we could be just spinning our wheels here.



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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Mar 7, 2023, 2:45 PM)


GuiMartins
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Mar 8, 2023, 7:00 AM

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GuiMartins
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Mar 8, 2023, 7:01 AM

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I appreciate a lot all of your help, i will focus on left bearing after the advices, i come back on weekend to say if problem was solved,

Thanks a lot


GuiMartins
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Mar 8, 2023, 7:17 PM

Post #10 of 18 (1575 views)
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That was very helpful, thank you for the information, i was sure that the noise was coming from left side, but when i did the test i realized that is actually from right side, perfect tip 💪🏼


GuiMartins
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Mar 8, 2023, 7:20 PM

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Im not a usual member of forums, and i didnt realize that you all would answer so fast 🤣, thats why i didnt checked early, but anyway, thanks for the help, i come back with the conclusion on weekend.


Hammer Time
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Mar 8, 2023, 7:23 PM

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Good, let us know how you make out.



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Sidom
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Mar 9, 2023, 12:24 AM

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when i did the test i realized that is actually from right side, perfect tip


Nice.

So, in conclusion when you turned to the left the noise got a lot louder and when you turn to the right the noise got quieter or almost went away.
Yes?


GuiMartins
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Mar 10, 2023, 1:20 AM

Post #14 of 18 (1532 views)
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Yes, exactly


Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 10, 2023, 1:46 AM

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It's now narrowed down don't forget a tire can do this also but usually they SHOW it as Sidom said - long read for whole thread.

Cupping or serious belt issues unseen.
So if you move that wheel and tire to - say the rear it may go away or move with it but just a small chance now.

Next is find the shop to be ready for the fix always best to just suggest let the tech make the real call. If old one is removed intact (hope so) you'll feel it in hand a good bearing is silent spinning ZERO noise or feel. If this type has 'play' it may not be long to explode and be a horror show?

If all works out it may need an alignment after the fix be sure to ask just how they did it if it took spindle off it would IMO no matter how careful, Tom



GuiMartins
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Mar 14, 2023, 4:15 AM

Post #16 of 18 (1454 views)
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Hi, sorry for the long time but i just take my car to the mechanic yesterday, here is the conclusion.
I did the test, around 65km/h i turned the wheel to the right and the noise stops, turn to left then noise gets higher.
Right bearing was F**ked, so i changed as a temporary solution, because all the wheel hub is not good, so i will have to change it all soon.

Anyway, the problem was founded and solved, thank you all very much for the help and discussion.


Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 14, 2023, 5:00 AM

Post #17 of 18 (1447 views)
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Actually great that you know. Whole hub to take yet another bearing soon? Judgment of that tech.

Thanks for the news you know what the problem is.
Just for FYI that hub may have been driven too long with this problem or done before and was messed up? It just means don't wait for noises so persistent as that one glad the turn test worked for you and tech too.

On to find the hub/spindle or what is needed now tech's job or yours you decide I would with the tech,

Tom



Hammer Time
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Mar 14, 2023, 5:00 AM

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Yep, those rear ones can fool you sometimes. Noises can travel.



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