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twokids0623
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Apr 3, 2015, 8:07 AM
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2004 toyota matrix 67000 miles hearing rubbing noise when applying brakes had them checked nothing wrong sound like its coming from the back
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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 3, 2015, 8:51 AM
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Seems to me someone just took a look for brake pad wear only and with this complaint I would request a more thorough check which would involve taking them apart for a real good look and re-lube, clean up and probably find a real reason to do some level of a brake job.
There's a list of reason brakes can make assorted noises and not look worn out at a glance,
T
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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 3, 2015, 9:43 AM
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Well, you would think dealers would have "real" mechanics and probably did but something missed somewhere. At least one version of this vehicle shows rear drum brakes which can collect brake dust and need to be mostly dumped out and inspect linings for anything showing attention. They are supposed to self adjust and when they quit doing that (some do) you decide to fix why or adjust manually which could last ages depending on overall situation inside and unseen without taking the drums OFF!
I'll refrain from detailing what should be done because YOU are paying someone to do this for you and really shouldn't have to totally understand every possible aspect of how a brake works just the complaint and fix it please! With unknowns before inspection ask for a call or to be contacted if things need more than might be routine.
#1 they must be declared safe. To me minor noises are common. If needed point out the noise with THE tech who will do the check and work so there's no misunderstanding. This should not be rocket science to figure out and get back with no noise without a big deal,
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twokids0623
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Apr 3, 2015, 10:23 AM
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thank you i have a call in to them they should have figured it out the first time you would think i have a appointment with a local place hoping for better results, if you have any pointers that i should know plz tell me rose
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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 3, 2015, 11:01 AM
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OK - As said most should at least verify brakes are safe. Any noise you aren't sure of directly related to using brakes should make you do just what you did and it just didn't work out for whatever reason?
Rubbing noises ONLY when brakes applied can be from a rust or metal bit that got to where brake friction lining does rub normally to work and otherwise be quiet about it. With some time and use there are parts that are lubed from new and any time after when brakes are required. That's part of what allows them to retract to OFF when you want them OFF and not dragging at all really.
So, with some time, use and age some debris and loss of lube is normal to a point. Pads or shoes can absorb tiny junk and make noise, not retract quite enough and be hotter than they should just from lack of lube alone having washed away such that the hot spots can make assorted noises. Drum style brakes do NOT sling off dust from wearing very well so some do, some don't require periodic checking and cleaning out the dust, check things are in order in general for anything to do with brakes.
That lining material can crack or a chunk separate and make assorted noises and still stop well. You wouldn't see that if not apart.
So my suggestion is to have the tech hear this noise. Even before you return make sure your tires are properly inflated. Seems of the wall but sometimes an under inflated tire can make a noise like a rubbing or even light sqeak best heard with a window open and problem wouldn't be brakes at all. There's room here for some coincidence that the brakes in use putting the force actually to the tires is the noise.
IDK - If you go back this is what I'll call a come-back job. You got it back with something done that didn't stop the noise. In fairness it might have been quiet after really cleaning and checked and declared finished so you got it back and it did it still?
There can be some problems describing noises in person never mind the web which is why I suggest if this really looked OK the first time for the first tech try again and show them with a test drive if needed exactly what you mean so confusion isn't the game.
Many or most techs will have a good clue of what to check and do when hearing a noise in person. If you complain about it still being there after paying for a fix you might be told that only a new brake job will do as most places are not going to spend all day to find a remote issue with parts that are just old if they are and default to just do them up as you are noticing it and don't like it.
Good luck. Try again and get the message clear on what you notice that you don't like or think is normal,
T
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