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hellobd
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Mar 29, 2012, 9:25 AM
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Hi,
My Car is
Honda Civic
Year -2006,
Engin is i-vetc (R16A) 1.6
80000 KM+
Problem : The car stopped in running, When i turn ignition there is no gear indicator in the dash board. The self works ok but engin do not starts. checked all the fuse, they are ok.
Can anyone please help me what is the problem.
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Tawhid
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nickwarner
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Mar 29, 2012, 5:39 PM
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What do you mean by "the self works ok". Do you mean the starter turns and the engine doesn't fire or do you mean the engine doesn't turn over when you try to start it?
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hellobd
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Mar 30, 2012, 10:43 AM
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yes, the starter turns and the engine doesn't fire
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Hammer Time
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Mar 30, 2012, 1:08 PM
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All "crank, no start" conditions are approached in the same way. Every engine requires certain functions to be able to run. Some of these functions rely on specific components to work and some components are part of more than one function so it is important to see the whole picture to be able to conclude anything about what may have failed. Also, these functions can ONLY be tested during the failure. Any other time and they will simply test good because the problem isn't present at the moment.
If you approach this in any other way, you are merely guessing and that only serves to replace unnecessary parts and wastes money.
Every engine requires spark, fuel and compression to run. That's what we have to look for.
These are the basics that need to be tested and will give us the info required to isolate a cause.
1) Test for spark at the plug end of the wire using a spark tester. If none found, check for power supply on the + terminal of the coil with the key on.
2) Test for injector pulse using a small bulb called a noid light. If none found, check for power supply at one side of the injector with the key on.
3) Use a fuel pressure gauge to test for correct fuel pressure, also noticing if the pressure holds when key is shut off.
4) If all of these things check good, then you would need to do a complete compression test.
Once you have determined which of these functions has dropped out,
you will know which system is having the problem.
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hellobd
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Apr 5, 2012, 12:50 AM
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Thanks for your reply. I think the problem is with electrical wiring, because, the plug does not get electricity. I have got the workshop manual. according to the manual i have check the wiring. There are somthing in the wiring. Can you please tell me if i want to check if the ECU is getting power or not, should i have to connect the ECU or i can do it in the connector. is there any way i can attach any file here, so that you could understand ........
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Hammer Time
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Apr 5, 2012, 3:30 AM
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I've already advised you on what I need you to do for me to help you.
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hellobd
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Apr 6, 2012, 9:22 PM
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1) Test for spark at the plug end of the wire using a spark tester. If none found, check for power supply on the + terminal of the coil with the key on.
> Tested, In the (+) no voltage
2) Test for injector pulse using a small bulb called a noid light. If none found, check for power supply at one side of the injector with the key on.
> no power in the Noid light
3) Use a fuel pressure gauge to test for correct fuel pressure, also noticing if the pressure holds when key is shut off.
> No Fel pressure
4) If all of these things check good, then you would need to do a complete compression test.
I dont know how to do the compression test
But i have tested that the ECU is not getting power.
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Hammer Time
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Apr 7, 2012, 3:08 AM
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Sounds like an issue with the main relay. I tried to look up a location for you but i don't find that car/engine combination so it may not be US sold.
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hellobd
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Apr 7, 2012, 10:52 AM
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Yes yo are correct, it is not sold in US, please go to this site you will get details
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I am in bangladesh. and this not very common car here. there are no qualified technician as well. I am not a technician as well, I have collected the workshop manual from internet. i was trying to diagnosis according to that manual. I do not have the HDS.
The manual is a about 700 MB. And it is a web program . if you like i can send you the wiring diagram.
I just want to know where the problem is.
Regards
Tawhid
(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Apr 7, 2012, 11:02 AM)
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Apr 7, 2012, 11:07 AM
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Can you post the images for the schematics of the PGM relay?
If you have a EOBD code reader can you retrieve codes from the ECU? The will tell you if the ECU is alive and communicating.
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Apr 7, 2012, 11:09 AM)
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hellobd
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Apr 8, 2012, 2:23 AM
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How could i attach file here?
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Hammer Time
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Apr 8, 2012, 6:24 AM
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You can't. You would have to upload an image at an image hosting site and link it here.
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hellobd
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Apr 8, 2012, 8:44 AM
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Hi,
Please check the wiring diagram
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hellobd
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Apr 8, 2012, 9:33 AM
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Also, here is the ECM/PCM input out put connection list.
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hellobd
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Apr 8, 2012, 9:59 AM
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Dear friends may i get your email address so that i can attach the documents.
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hellobd
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Apr 8, 2012, 10:59 AM
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For your convenyence please check this site, for the diagram
last warning.......... no commercial links
And no, we don't give out our e-mail address nor should you post yours here either
(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Apr 8, 2012, 12:15 PM)
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Apr 8, 2012, 12:16 PM
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Can't really see your diagrams too well when zoomed. It appears the 06 Civic 1.8L sold here in the states has the same wiring schematics as your 1.6L
Does the check engine light come on when you turn the ignition to on? If you have an EOBD code reader, check for trouble codes.
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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hellobd
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Apr 8, 2012, 10:03 PM
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Sorry i do not have the OEBD code reader.
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Apr 9, 2012, 4:41 AM
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Does the check engine light come on when you turn the ignition on?
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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hellobd
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Apr 10, 2012, 1:57 AM
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yes
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Find the PGM 1 relay. Put your finger on the top of it and turn the ignition on. Do you feel or hear the relay click?
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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hellobd
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Apr 10, 2012, 10:39 AM
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Checked, No click.
There is a procedure to check the relay in the workshop manual, according to the manual i have tested the relay. it is ok.
According to the manual i have check the continuty with a multimeter in that relay socket. found continuty.
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Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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hellobd
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Apr 12, 2012, 11:42 PM
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Dear friends, thanks for your help. i can not do this test now i have some problem here. i will come back to you very soon.
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hellobd
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Apr 27, 2012, 9:10 AM
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Dear Friends,
I am back.
You had advised to do the test as attached picture.
I have done this test.
That relay terminal has to connections from the battery positive (+) terminal. I have checked with the multimeter, both terminal has 12V.Ignition switch on or off does not have any change all the time 12V.
The another terminal which is from ECM/PCM, and work as ECM/PCM ground. I have tested with a test bulb. and with battery positive terminal. bulb does not light on, no matter igniton sw on or off.
For your better understanding please see my dash board status, when ignition sw is on.
Regards
Tawhid
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