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johnnyd7
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Jan 25, 2014, 10:38 AM
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Hot wiring car
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Hey all, my uncle recently gave me his Opel Monza 1.6 GSI. But before he gave it to me, he loaned it to his friend who lost the keys, and broke the ignition switch off. The car has problems, so I towed it home, and never started it yet. I've now checked a few problems, and want to start it, but I don't know how to hot wire it. It has just 2 black wires, one red, and one red & black. All the ignition switches I've seen online has 6 wires, so now I don't know what to do. Any help?
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GC
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Jan 25, 2014, 11:00 AM
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Dont think anyone here is going to help with that, for obvious reasons. Need to get a lock cylinder and key.
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johnnyd7
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Jan 25, 2014, 11:06 AM
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In case I'm stealing? The car is definitely mine, bit I guess I don't have proof to show you guys. Does it say on the package how to wire the switch if I buy it though? The wires are in a holder already that looks like it clips into something, but I don't know if it's a universal clip or if I'll have to rewire (which I have no clue what goes for what).
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kev2
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Jan 25, 2014, 12:45 PM
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happens all the time - lost keys, stolen keys etc ... your local locksmith will be the go technician to for this.
I had a second thought- if uncle purchased vehicle NEW snd the dealer is local, depending on model year they may have key codes available -
(This post was edited by kev2 on Jan 25, 2014, 12:48 PM)
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Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 25, 2014, 12:53 PM
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OP (original poster) - Are you finding the ignition switch with more wires when you should be looking for the lock cylinder. That could be the initial part of confusion then whatever other tricks it could take to make it work in that car remains unknown to me as it's not sold here,
T
(This post was edited by Tom Greenleaf on Jan 25, 2014, 12:56 PM)
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GC
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Jan 25, 2014, 2:03 PM
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Yes, I dont have info for the car anyway, as Tom pointed out. I just dont feel right giving advice on hotwiring a car on the internet... (no offense) aside from the fact that on modern vehicles, its not always possible to do, or at least not practical. As kev2 said, call a locksmith, it shouldnt be outrageous in price and will save you from having to fix a hack job later. Not sure what you meant by the ignition being broken, so a key from the dealer might be an option as well. Good luck!
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johnnyd7
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Jan 26, 2014, 1:29 AM
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I'm not sure how to link all of you guys into this post, so I apologise if you guys get notified twice.
Yeah, I understand the uneasiness. This is my story, my uncle bought the car second hand (older car, made in 1980 I think), but he had other cars as well so he hardly used it. Then he loaned it out to family members, and his friend who was the last person who used it before my uncle gave it to me. His friend is the one who lost the keys and broke the ignition switch right off. I don't even know how to connect it back. One of the main reasons I'm asking these questions here is because I can't find any help for my car online. No service manual, wiring diagrams, nothing. It's incredibly difficult for me to figure out. This is my first car, and it's a bit of a project car for me. Ok so here's some pictures:
Ignition switch:
http://postimg.org/image/tzsc7cxqj/
http://postimg.org/image/69t9djpzv/
http://postimg.org/image/ss8ncvb3h/
http://postimg.org/image/qszwect7n/
And the harness/plug that I found hanging in the car:
http://postimg.org/image/yxjqr35bn/
http://postimg.org/image/547e66zmh/
Thank you all so much for the replies by the way.
(This post was edited by carjunky on Jan 31, 2014, 8:45 PM)
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Hammer Time
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Jan 26, 2014, 5:34 AM
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You don't have to worry about responding to every comment separately. Everybody sees ever comment.
I attempted to edit your links so they would show the pictures here but that didn't work.
The pictures show that someone has chiseled off the ignition lock and the electrical ignition switch is just missing. You just need to buy a new ignition lock and a new ignition switch and plug it into that plug. Stop trying to jump wires before you start a fire.
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johnnyd7
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Jan 26, 2014, 7:02 AM
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Ah, I'm sorry about that, I didn't know if everyone would be notified about my reply because I just made one big reply. Anyway, is that plug a universal plug? Because the ones I looked up online have six wires, whereas mine is only four. I'm just not sure if any switch will fit or if there's something specific I should buy.
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Hammer Time
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Jan 26, 2014, 7:11 AM
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No, it's not universal. You need a lock and switch made specifically for that car.
A professional could possibly wire in some kind of universal switch but it has to be done by someone that understands electrical circuits and has a wiring diagram for that vehicle.
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johnnyd7
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Jan 27, 2014, 1:26 AM
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Ah, ok. Thanks everyone for your time and help.
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Hammer Time
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Jan 27, 2014, 3:31 AM
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You're welcome.
Closing this now to keep the spammers out. If you need to reopen it, contact any Mod.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 27, 2014, 3:42 AM
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"older car, made in 1980"
Keep looking for exact fit parts if only to save headaches. 1980 +/- shouldn't be too involved with electronic things except setting off a noise that key is still in cylinder when you open the door.
Can't know what is handy for you but a local dealer of this brand car new could help direct you to WHO or where to get parts but doubt they sell new parts for a 1980.
The web is great but this could take asking in person at the right places for you and at the age of it,
T
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