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firebirdmama
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Aug 6, 2012, 5:38 PM
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2000 pontiac firebird won't start
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2000 Pontiac Firebird
3.8l series 2 v6
150,000kms
worked fine up to this point. stopped at store. came out won't start - lights & radio came on all gauges but engine wouldn't turn over - not even any clicking sounds of starter.
no warning lights or Engine lights came on.
Ruled out the starter and the cylinoid - not getting power to cylinoid (sorry for spelling :( ) We were able to start by jumping the cylinoid and then it stalls out.
We think it might have something to do with the security feature of car - do we need to purchase a whole new ignition system?? Can the keys be reprogrammed? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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nickwarner
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Aug 6, 2012, 5:55 PM
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Is your security light flashing?
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firebirdmama
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Aug 6, 2012, 6:09 PM
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yes
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Aug 6, 2012, 8:12 PM
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your theft system is malfunctioning. I'll go off memory here on how to work around this one but I know HT has a post he might throw in if I get a detail wrong as to what to do. Under the dash on the column are black and yellow wires that will be twisted in a spiral. No other wires will be together with them. You cut those wires and on the harness side (not the side going to the column, with the wires cut it would do nothing) solder in a 2k ohm resistor. You can get them at radio shack. Tell them it is for a 12v DC system and use fine rosin core solder followed by heat shrink tubing to cover it. Turn the key on and attempt to start the car. It will stall. Leave the key on until the security light stops flashing. Turn the key completely to the lock position and then attempt to start the car. If the part in the ignition that recognizes your key is out, which is the most common thing to do this, you will have relearned the system and have no further troubles. As a bonus, you can use any key blank cut to your key to start this. You won't need a $65 chip key as you have bypassed the chip feature.
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Aug 7, 2012, 3:16 AM
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Some corrections here..........
You cannot bypass the security system in total only the sensor in the ignition switch and replacing the ignition switch would also resolve that issue. There is no special key required. Before doing anything drastic see if a relearn will work. If this doesn't at least fix it temporarily, then the sensor is not the issue and you will need a professional scan tool to diagnose the problem properly. Don't attempt to bypass anything before you have tried this.
PASSLOCK 10 MINUTE RELEARN
AUTO LEARN
Time required, approximately 10 minutes:
1. Insure that the battery is fully charged.
2. Use the scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.
3. Turn the ignition switch from the OFF position to the CRANK position attempting to start the vehicle. The vehicle will start and then stall.
4. Leave the ignition switch in the ON position while observing the security indicator.
5. When the security indicator turns off, which can take up to 10 minutes, turn the ignition switch off. Wait 10 seconds.
6. The BCM and the PCM will learn the new code on the next start attempt.
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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Aug 7, 2012, 3:17 AM)
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firebirdmama
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Aug 7, 2012, 2:56 PM
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i tried but still no luck. the light has now stopped flashing when the car doors are closed - flashes when one is open. Still cannot start car. On the display where the engine light is on - the word security flashes when I have the key turned to the on position.
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Hammer Time
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Aug 7, 2012, 3:09 PM
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The immobilizer and the contents theft deterrent are 2 different things. I just looked at the immobilizer for your car and it uses Passkey, not Passlock. That means you should have a visual pellet in the metal part of the key. The sensor for this system is bypassed differently but that would have nothing to do with the doors,.
Try locking all the doors and unlocking the driver's door with the key or the clicker if you have one.
Here is some info on disarming it.
To deactivate the alarm when activated and functioning, use the following procedure:
- If the alarm is activated by pressing the panic mode button on the remote transmitter, press the panic mode button again. Pressing the panic button a second time will deactivate the alarm.
- If the alarm is activated by the shock sensor, door or rear lid release switch, the alarm is deactivated by any of the following actions:
- Turn the ignition ON. Use the proper key.
- Press any button on the remote transmitter.
- Press UNLOCK in order to complete the following actions:
- Silence the alarm
- Unlock the driver door
- Disarm the system
- Press LOCK in order to complete the following actions:
- Silence the alarm
- Keep the doors locked
- Keep alarm system activated
- Press the rear compartment lift window panel button in order to complete the following actions:
- Silence the alarm
- Unlock the lift window panel
- Disarm the lift window panel
- Press the panic button in order to complete the following actions:
- Silence the alarm
- Keep the doors locked
- Keep the alarm system activated
- The alarm will deactivate after 2 minutes .
- If the alarm is activated by an improper ignition key, press any button on the remote transmitter in order to deactivate the alarm.
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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Aug 7, 2012, 3:10 PM)
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firebirdmama
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Aug 7, 2012, 4:14 PM
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You are correct - there is a pellet in the metal part of the key. One thing to note is that when I hit lock on the keyfob the doors don't lock. But if the doors are locked, they can be unlocked using the fob unlock button. Trunk button & alarm button also work. I tried to disarm as per your instructions below, but I still cannot start the car.
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firebirdmama
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Aug 7, 2012, 4:18 PM
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Further to my previous email - if I were to hit the lock button on the fob - the doors don't lock as I said before, but the system does arm. If I were to open the door in this state, the alarm would sound.
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Hammer Time
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Aug 7, 2012, 4:32 PM
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Are you still getting the flashing security light when you try to start it?
It's starting to sound like you may have a problem with the BCM and that is going to require a factory scan tool and some know-how to diagnose
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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Aug 7, 2012, 4:34 PM)
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Aug 8, 2012, 3:53 PM
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Thanks everyone for the help. I've booked my appt and will let you know what they find.
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