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ratrace2
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Jan 10, 2012, 4:47 PM
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Hello All,
Well, a buddy of mine has a 1993 accura Legend and the motor always overheats. BOOOOOHOOOOOO....
Now, being the friend that I am I told him that I would help......BOOOO Hooooooooo.....
OK, I thought it was a bad head gasket because it was overheating and seemed to run fine. I then
did a compression test on all six cylinders and here is what it said.
Cyl 1: 180 psi
Cyl 2: 180 psi
Cyl 3: 150 psi
Cyl 4: 179 psi
Cyl 5: 180 Psi
Cyl 6: 180 psi...
OK, Now I'm thinking, this is not a bad head gasket....
Could it just be a cooling problem that keeps the car overheating OR, should I do a Leak-Down Test........
P.s.: I did a "Block Test" with the test tube and the blue fluid that is supposed to turn yellow/green if there is exhaust in the radiator.....it was negative...no exhaust...
Anyone have the "end all " test for a bad head gasket.
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Hammer Time
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Jan 10, 2012, 4:57 PM
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None of the testing you did is conclusive.
The "end all" would be using an exhaust analyzer to sniff the coolant at the cap but I doubt you have one of those.
Here are some of the things we do.
- Remove all the spark plug and pressure test the cooling system. Hold it under pressure and see if it maintains or drops pressure. Do this long enough to try to accumulate some coolant in the cylinder so you can spin the motor and see if anything spits out.
- Start the engine after it was shut down hot and then cooled down. Walk around to the tailpipe and smell the fumes to see if you get any coolant odor near the back of the car.
- Look closely at the plugs you removed for any that seem to be "washed" clean.
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ratrace2
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Jan 10, 2012, 5:15 PM
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I'll try all of that..............thanks.................
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Hammer Time
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Jan 10, 2012, 5:21 PM
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A couple things I left out.........
Run the engine at idle with the radiator cap off and look for any bubbles coming up on a continuous basis, probably worse as the engine temp rises.
If the engine continues to consume coolant with no external explanation for the loss.
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ratrace2
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Jan 10, 2012, 5:34 PM
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OK, I'll do that.................I'm going to pressureize the water jackets too........see if they pump out some water.
I have thought about a "leak down test" and what it might show..........
Also, Do you know how to set up a timing light to test the timing on these 93 accura Legends?
I have the book and read the procedure but I don't get what the heck they are saying.
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Hammer Time
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Jan 10, 2012, 5:47 PM
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You could pressurize the cylinder and leave the radiator cap off to watch for bubbles.
There is no reason to mess with the timing. This is an electronic adjustment without a distributor.
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Discretesignals
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Jan 11, 2012, 5:52 AM
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Does it overheat while your at cruising speeds or just at stops?
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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ratrace2
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Jan 11, 2012, 6:03 PM
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the owner, brought the car to my house a couple of weeks ago after a short drive (10 miles "I guess") complaining that it was overheating.
I'm going to treat the problem as an "over heat" cooling problem until I find evidence to prove otherwise.
I'll:
pull the thermostat, test the water pump, run current to the fans, check for blockage in the heater core and the radiator........
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P.s. HammerTime:
The timing is adjustable on the pre-ODBII 1993 Acura Legends (Haynes manual), because it is listed as a cause--in the troubleshooting section--of engine overheating..................................Crazy......
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Hammer Time
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Jan 11, 2012, 6:32 PM
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I know it's adjustable but it's not mechanical, it's electronic and there is no reason to suspect an issue with it so don't create one.
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ratrace2
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Jan 11, 2012, 6:58 PM
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..........O.K.
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ratrace2
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Jan 14, 2012, 12:16 PM
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OK,
I put the "cooling system pressure tester" on the car and a couple of things happened.
1. the pressure needle--I noticed for a brief moment--was bounding a few pounds of pressure.
2. When I started the car without the radiator cap on it sprayed anti-freeze all over the front of the car.
3. A steady cloud--and I mean cloud--of white smoke, that puddles into clear water, comes out of the tail pipe.
But, it didn't over heat.................
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Hammer Time
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Jan 14, 2012, 1:17 PM
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OH, it's blown.... big time.
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ratrace2
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Jan 14, 2012, 3:28 PM
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Yea, she is a Blown.
OK, the fix.
Oh about we get a couple of head gaskets and swap them out.....Ta Da....New head gaskets...........
Anybody like that Idea????? Hum????
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FYI: I updated my "chrome flakes in the oil pan" thread.....Bad Cam.
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Hammer Time
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Jan 14, 2012, 3:43 PM
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Forget it. Pull the heads and send them out to the machine shop for pressure testing and planing. You may need new head bolts also.
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ratrace2
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Jan 14, 2012, 4:57 PM
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OK,........................................
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ratrace2
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Feb 2, 2012, 6:23 PM
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Well, we got the heads off and they are "shot".
There is deterioration all around the area of the water jackets...........like.......about ........... (.25)........yea a quarter of an inch deep................
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Hammer Time
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Feb 2, 2012, 6:26 PM
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We can't keep 2 threads open on the same subject. I'm locking this one
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