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Vicjon2127
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I have a 2000 ford Taurus and I recently replaced my water pump ad during the time it took to change the pump my belt grew cause it is too long cant figure it out please help
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If it's too long then you are routing it the wrong way.
Give me an engine size and the 8th digit of the VIN# and I'll get you a diagram
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3.0 and the 8 digit is a u
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U should be able to print that (waterproof it) and put it under hood like it should be and once was on many. Duh - works one way in tight area last pest of a job, T
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Thats the way i have it i was thinking that the water pump pulley is sitting closer than the other one is that possible
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What? If you still have the old one match them up. There's no room for them to be different in any dimension. IDK there are more and more cloned parts new sold in "reman" packaging (a few assorted items now) that were not correct enough.
Measure both for how it holds pully simply must be spot on if not that's the whole issue. The diagram stands as how it's routed if you have old belt (good to keep old parts till all is proven right) with the new, reman or whatever you acquired,
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The way I understood his question, he is using the old belt so it HAS to be routed wrong.
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Agree but if that pump came with a pulley that was different that would be obviously wrong. It doesn't take much to exceed a fit to be properly tensioned. Did the replacement come with the pully? IF not it's misrouted as Hammer said.
I've never seen these belts stretch rather fray or cracks little wear are out of spec is marked.
If failure of old one really went wild I guess anything is possible? Tom
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It didnt come with a pulley i went and bought a brand new belt cause i thought the other one had gotten stretched somehow. I thank u guys for your help still dont no what im goung to do
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Old one must have worked so if all the same there's something confusing probably you about routing it?
Also: YOU can try to measure the belt or parts stores have them tells total length while intact. That's also usually a # of the part # on some brands.
I feel the pain with an unknown if diagram is wrong so be it. Other is if this car's VIN and whole front of car from another (chop fixed?) it might not be the right belt for it at all old or new.
If you also replaced other anything like an idle pulley or tensioner match those also. Any (so far for me) tensioner assemby pulley (whole) should have a line and timing cover also to show the extremes of travel a belt can have but seems this is so far off for you it's back to routing is looking OK just isn't.
IDK if over some if another part was replaced could have been a different size was done before you had this?
Last: It's a popular car so this shouldn't have surprise variables unless a wild maybe a California version did something all different??
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If that belt came off of that engine, it will go back on. I will say it again, you have it routed wrong. The routing around the tensioner is usually where the mistake is made.
If you gave me the right engine, that is the right diagram.
The "U" engine is the overhead valve engine.
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Do you know where I can go look at a picture of an engine on that side where I can see it with my eyes
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How would I know that? You're in Texas and I'm in Florida.
You don't need to look at another car. Everything you need to know is in that diagram.
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Look back to top post. It needed a water pump now done and now this?
*YOU did it so what was left out or different?
* WHAT went wrong with water pump to begin with? Just leaking and or also wobble belt/pully or seize up and burn the belt also?
Hey - so true pics of what you started with a now would help or another car with same engine to compare where this went wrong somehow.
SAVE PARTS till new stuff works. In this type of thing if a novice take pictures before and also mark bolts, nuts and items to re-assemble the thing.
Florida, Texas and I'm in "balmy MA" just spiked to 3F also does over 100F here these type things on vehicle hate the wild changes especially rubber - belts, hoses, wipers, tires and more just have to be up to par for any of it.
This problem is "Pilot Error" IMO it simply isn't being put back together right to focus just on belt.
HT - is there another easy to find diagram if this engine somehow isn't that one? OP - if this car was retrofitted with A/C (from no A/C when new) or deleted you have to say so. If you don't know how could we?
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There is no other diagram. AC was standard and even if the compressor was removed, the belt worked before.
There is no alternate engine that can be in this car. The DOHC would require changing every piece of wiring and module in the car to work along with all the AC and PS components.
The only answer to this is that it is routed wrong and he's not following the diagram correctly. It is easy to make a mistake with this diagram. I have done it myself.
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