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tosbourne88
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Feb 24, 2014, 8:38 AM
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Hello. I have a 2008 mazda 3. I was having problems with my oil pan heater so i removed the corded to do some tests. Now my car wont start...all lights come on but she wont turn over....any ideas
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Feb 24, 2014, 9:15 AM
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By "turn over" do you mean the starter cranks the engine but it won't start or that it doesn't crank at all?
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tosbourne88
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Doesnt crank at all...turn they key....all lightscome on but when trying to start...nothing....car hummed like lights were on when door was first opened but only the first time....battery is fine
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Feb 24, 2014, 9:24 AM
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Sounds like you disturbed some starter wires somewhere.
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Feb 24, 2014, 9:32 AM
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Yea...i was thinking the same thing...going to have to go out and look around again....also with the oil pan heater is instantly teipping my gfci...metered out the xord plugged into the heater...nothing to ground and reading my 25 ohms of resistance which seems fine....other vehicle plugged into same plug...tried uaing cord from other vehicle and that still didnt work....any ideas??
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Feb 24, 2014, 10:29 AM
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Ok...lets try again. Currently busy so i typed it fast. I tested the oil pan heater. No coninuity to ground and reading about 25 ohms hot to neutral. i tried a different extension cord that i was using for my truck and it still instantly tripped the gfci. I know that the gfci is fine and in perfect working condition. Im not reading a shortwhen i test the oil pan heater. What would cause it to read fine but trip instantly. Also when i plug in the oil pan heater it arcs out inside the plug which would seem like a short. Any ideas??
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Feb 24, 2014, 11:17 AM
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Does it trip it when it's unplugged?
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Whenever the oil pan heater plug is plugged into the cord it arcs and trips the gfci. No matter what i cant get the oil pan heater on the car to work with the gfci but my truck works fine. Also i had the car plugged in a couple days ago and it was working fine.
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It sounds pretty clear that the heater is shorted.
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Feb 24, 2014, 2:12 PM
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Agree after all this seems your Ground Fault for power is doing it's job as it should for outdoor and other home wiring. If this block heater is just installed in a so called freeze plug or port on the engine it's drawing too much or shorted.
Just curious by subject line. Why is this car so difficult to start without a heater? Are temps and location where you leave this car that low still?
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Feb 24, 2014, 2:26 PM
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It doesn't crank Tom
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Confused - a block heater powered by "house current" shouldn't have diddle to do with the car really except a warmer engine naturally would crank AND start faster in extreme cold. I don't see the connection between a failed block heater and why the engine doesn't crank.
Not cranking is the problem so lets forget the 110v problem as I don't think it has anything to do with the car as the ones I know are just as named, heaters that shouldn't require a car to test if the thing was still uninstalled......
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Feb 24, 2014, 4:01 PM
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He has 2 different issues Tom. First he had the heater tripping the breaker but when he tried to remove it, something happened to the starter circuit.
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Right - it's TWO different issues. I say car would have the problem with or without this flippin' heater, Tom
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