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WGMaas
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Aug 28, 2013, 6:57 AM

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I have lost all faith in the garage I am going to. I had an alternator replaced and now my air conditioner isn't working, specifically it is blowing hot air. There is plenty of refrigerant in the system. Seems like the clutch is not engaging the compressor. It never turns on.

It worked fine when I brought it in. The garage is now telling me I need a new PCM because it is not sending a signal to the AC unit as well as a new AC clutch because every time it tries to engage the clutch, it blows a fuse. If the PCM is not sending a signal to the AC unit then how can the clutch blow the fuse?

Does this make sense to anyone?

Thanks!


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Aug 28, 2013, 7:12 AM

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If the PCM is not sending a signal to the AC unit then how can the clutch blow the fuse?

Does this make sense to anyone?


No, not at all. They don't know what they are doing. The PCM supplies trigger ground to the relay. If the fuse is blowing, something else is causing it. The fact that it happened after they replaced an alternator makes me very suspicious that the pinched a wire somewhere in that area.



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WGMaas
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Aug 28, 2013, 7:33 AM

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Thanks for such a quick reply, I really appreciate it!

I am not familiar with the PCM. Is it possible that it is bad and can not send a signal to AC unit? Could there be some other components that come in to play here that could be preventing the PCM from sending the signal and turning on the AC unit?

Thanks again!


Hammer Time
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Aug 28, 2013, 7:40 AM

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Anything is possible but it's highly unlikely and it would have nothing to do with a blown fuse if that were the case. Many techs blame the computer when they just can't figure out what the problem is. The computer ends up being replaced for nothing and you still have the problem.



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Aug 28, 2013, 8:52 AM

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Quote ">>There is plenty of refrigerant in the system.<<"

Just that: How the heck did you ascertain that?

T



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Aug 28, 2013, 4:38 PM

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PCM won't cause a fuse to blow because it is on the ground side of the load. They need to recheck their work and make sure they didn't pinch any wires during their repair.





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WGMaas
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Sep 1, 2013, 5:02 AM

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I'm concluding that there was enough refrigerant in the system due to the fact that the AC was working and blowing extremely cold air when I brought the van in to get the alternator replaced.


WGMaas
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Sep 1, 2013, 5:07 AM

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Just as a follow up to my original post, I picked up the van and will be bringing it somewhere else. I was told that I need a new PCM, a new AC clutch and now something having to do with the transmission.

Since having the alternator replaced, I still do not have AC and now the vehicle is driving like it will stall at any moment. Also, the gear shift indicator is not lighting up the current gear but all the lights on the indicator are lit up.

Question: Should I find a garage that specializes in dealing with electronics? or should I just bring the vehicle to the dealer to get this mess sorted out? Any suggestions? Thanks!


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Sep 1, 2013, 6:23 AM

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Quote: ">>I'm concluding that there was enough refrigerant in the system due to the fact that the AC was working and blowing extremely cold air when I brought the van in to get the alternator replaced.<<"

You've concuded that on that!! Now you are trying to re-engineer the space shuttle and have not clue if there's even gas in it and the right amount. All bets off on all other testing until you DON'T GUESS BUT KNOW THAT OR ARE JUST SPINNING YOUR WHEELS. I a few seconds it could be empty just left and parked and you haven't ruled out 65% +/- of reasons A/C quits working!

This and many will default to not engaging clutch with wrong or inaccurate info that the system is low. Takes two seconds to at least know there's pressure and some gas in the system and you are going off on tangents without ruling out problem #1.

Do you even so much as have static pressure in line with the temperature at hand? If not stop there and fix that even if not the overall problem,

T



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Sep 1, 2013, 7:32 AM

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Should I find a garage that specializes in dealing with electronics? or should I just bring the vehicle to the dealer to get this mess sorted out? Any suggestions? Thanks!


This is my opinion. Ask your friends, family, or neighbors where they take their vehicles to get repaired. If you go independent, find a shop that specializes in drive-ability and air conditioning. Make sure the shop is licensed and insured.

The dealer is going to be more expensive, but they should be capable of resolving your issue.

It is weird that this problem all started after they replaced the alternator. Now you have all these weird electrical issues. Could be the alternator is defective and has excessive diode rippling going on or it could be overcharging. They could have also pinched or damaged a harnesses causing the clutch fuse to pop when the relay is turned on. A good tech should be able to solve the mystery.

Make sure the next place you bring it to knows the history of repairs made before the problems appeared.





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Sep 1, 2013, 8:13 AM

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I'm concluding that there was enough refrigerant in the system due to the fact that the AC was working and blowing extremely cold air when I brought the van in to get the alternator replaced.


Don't assume that....................

You don't know what they may have damaged or loosened up to cause a refrigerant loss. The biggest mistake that can be made in diagnosing a problem in a car is assuming anything.

Of course you can't go wrong with the dealer but that doesn't mean that there are no independents capable also. You need to stay away from the National chain companies and places that specialize in other things like tires, transmissions, etc. You need a shop highly experienced in both refrigeration repair and electrical diagnostics.



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