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2014 Ford Escape Se 1.6 A/c Leak from compressor


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Gbr425
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Mar 31, 2021, 3:30 PM

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stopped working found leak at the compressor coming out of the connector. I believe it is the coil clutch connector? It looks like the pressure built up from the freon and oil in the compressor is pushing out through the connector piece. I held the piece with a little pressure and it kept it from leaking, but I'm not sure if I need to replace the connector wires or if the compressor is faulty which is causing too much pressure allowing freon and oil to escape through the wires. There are no other leaks around the compressor except for the connector area, and there are no other leaks on any of the lines or service ports. I evacuated the whole system, also replaced the low pressure switch, recharged it and continues to leak. Recharged it yesterday checked it this morning and had the pressure gauge at 50 while the engine running and AC on max which is good but blows warm air and continues to leak. Once I recharge it though it will blow ice Cold Air for the day but will continue to leak and blows warm the next. How should I go about fixing this problem? Should I attempt to just replace the connector wire and not disassemble the compressor from the car? Or could there be a separate issue causing this problem? The compressor was also recently replaced but from the looks of it the wire was not. I also noticed this was the same issue I had when I had to replace the compressor the first time.


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Hammer Time
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Mar 31, 2021, 3:49 PM

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You are way off base here. The coil and wiring is an external part attached to the compressor. There is no refrigerant in any part of the coil or it's related wiring.

If the compressor is leaking, then it needs a new compressor, plain and simple. The new compressor will come complete with a new clutch and coil.



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Mar 31, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Who is helping you with this? It's as Hammer said not the coil nor clutch parts there's no refrigerant there but the shaft seal of compressor is a weak link for evidence there you can see it.
Toss the entire thing as per instructions it comes with, whole unit with oil and clutch. Inspected for other damage it usually is more than just a compressor. You just did one? What's the warranty on that one?


New, no re-builds for best bet verify real NEW,


T



Gbr425
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Mar 31, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Here are photos of what I'm talking about.
https://ibb.co/zbV8gJS
https://ibb.co/ZgTGqhN

I'ma assuming that is the EVDC solenoid valve?


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Mar 31, 2021, 5:23 PM

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That is not the clutch. The clutch is on the other end of the compressor. That is a sensor or a valve.

I don't know if you have some sort of foreign model but the service manual and wiring diagram doesn't show that.

You can see the wire plug in the picture at the other end of the compressor.





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Apr 1, 2021, 12:44 AM

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Backwards hunt for part showed a clutch this by part # look up was clutchless! (edit in that there was a clutch for disabling probably and plug at belt end of this) VDC did look this from the back, no wires to the front - the web failing at the site I was using part # and picture of it not the same.


See if this shows >


There's your right angle control of how much it's supposed to compress would have seals. IDK, haven't had the fun on one yet but if this is it, it seals refrigerant and oil there.


This part new was under $400 not sure of that. It's so full of mixed info, wrong pictures vs what OP showed anyway.


I now see you point OP this could be the trouble your pics showed oil everywhere.
BTW the only 1.6 for a 2014 was a turbo version if not that lost but this is what an hour found me out there on this.
That plug has to have seals I found you'll find where the belt turns this isn't a clutch or coil to make it work it's direct driving this type IDK why parts and pics don't match just common sense it's leaking from that plug should have been replaced or come with a new one.
This is all the tech's job who worked on it not yours OP. It's showing new or rebuilt (?) in your pics not costly new for A/C so lost with this what you have and what to do,


Tom

(This post was edited by Tom Greenleaf on Apr 1, 2021, 12:55 AM)


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Apr 1, 2021, 5:24 AM

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As I said, this must be a European version of the car of something because it is not showing on the US version, even for 2015.

VW and a couple other Euro cars have been using a compressor like this for a few years. The compressor doesn't turn on and off through a clutch. The clutch is permanently engaged. The valve in the rear regulates refrigerant pressure and flow out of the compressor.

The bottom line is still the same, you need a new compressor.



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Apr 1, 2021, 6:18 AM

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I think we've found it. I found part # thru AZ's look-up w pics. It wasn't this way?? Then look up the part # it shows FoMoCo on the housing. True - Euro models have had Fords and US has had Euro stuff just stick names on parts back and forth.


A/C is/was a pest to design any at all never mind for vehicles. Use what works best and fits for the market you have. Rolls Royce chose GM's A-6 set up for one I RAN AWAY from needing way too much in a 1970s something RR Silver Shadow or who knows now?


I know you are right Hammer - the clutch is there but IMO now just a failsafe if unreal cold or wild heat one more thing to shut it off. Brassy looking thing on back a blowout valve I think?


At the end I'd go new (that wasn't costly as things go) but replace that plug dammit it has to have seals watched how this works and stays on making almost no pressure? Interesting if nothing else. It's failed twice on this so maybe not such a great idea afterall not the point but has to be the trouble now is the point.


OP - toss it for new, plug thing all yours to find what it should cost is active to make this work - bet is costly but such is A/C most of the time,


Tom


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Apr 1, 2021, 7:54 AM

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I know you are right Hammer - the clutch is there but IMO now just a failsafe if unreal cold or wild heat one more thing to shut it off. Brassy looking thing on back a blowout valve I think?


No, it is not. There is no clutch, just a solid pulley. The compressor is regulated by an internal valve.



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Apr 1, 2021, 8:03 AM

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? Saw a cut out demo of one - this one IDK. Why the plug for wires there then? Maybe not a real plug but looked like one? Tom


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Apr 1, 2021, 8:25 AM

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The only wiring is connected to the internal valve.



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Apr 1, 2021, 8:43 AM

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Post #6 that pic of exact one shows lower right a plug. Multiple views sure looked like a wire plug in. Maybe not this is a first, T



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Apr 1, 2021, 9:02 AM

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I don't know what that picture is or where you got it from but there are no plugs in the picture of his actual car.

This is not helping the OP at all.
This whole debate is futile because we still don't even know what system this car has because service manuals do not show it having that valve which means electric clutch.

I am describing how many late model cars work now with no electronic clutch and an internal refrigerant flow valve. His picture shows one of those but Alldata does not.

The wiring diagram shows the clutch only and nothing else electrical in the circuit so it's nothing but guessing on this one.



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Apr 1, 2021, 1:19 PM

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Do you want the link here or out of site? I'll post it from AutoZone's own site. Compare pics OP took and what it shows for a compressor.


Here > https://www.autozone.com/...sIgnoreVehicle=false

That shows a plug in front. Don't ask - depends on which program I use IE or Edge what shows and what wont alone drive anyone nuts.
It's there now shows every angle full circle, T

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Apr 1, 2021, 1:23 PM

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Autozone info is worthless.

I'm done here. I don't know what he has but he knows he needs a compressor at this point.



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Apr 1, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Agreed - some of the time? Here's the link again, had to fix it. Then look at his pics vs those. Too coincidental IMO. The "Zone" wasn't easy to copy pics from took that first to Google Images with part # listed tons showed - those can be wrong too? Tom




Here again should click? > https://www.autozone.com/...sIgnoreVehicle=false Yup, it will? No it went all wrong??

(This post was edited by Tom Greenleaf on Apr 1, 2021, 1:50 PM)


Gbr425
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Apr 10, 2021, 9:58 AM

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Well I have working A/C!!! So the actual problem didn't lie the compressor itself. The way the A/C system is engineered complicates the diagnosis process, resulting in many failed attempts at achieving a desired gas rate to evenly flow throughy the system. Prior work on the system indicates a plausible, yet coherent pattern of continued failure of the compressor unit itself. How Motorcraft managed to sneak by the compression ratios without consumer or better yet, automotive technician knowledge completely dispells our adherence to strict protocols when following manufacturer repair process. Taken into account other external factors that result in a misdiagnosed assumption of the corresponding problem, verification of correct methods must go, quite frankly, undistinguished.

This a/c system on Ford 1.6 Escape has presented itself with a manufacturing model of what may occur outside the bounds of a professional technician. Simply replacing R134 seems to solve the truck for most, but most certainly an underlying problem may continue.

Pre verify your specs are correct, eliminate the leaks that occur, button up the system to ensure proper wiring as if it were legit factory, then reach for that accumulator. Once in place, allow sufficient air flow throughtout the cabin, leak free, until the problem dissipates. Voila! Ice Cold A/c!


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Apr 10, 2021, 10:12 AM

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Yeah sure, you have it all figured out.

Closed now



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