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97 Camry front wheel drive problem


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chas
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May 22, 2013, 1:28 AM

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97 Camry, 4cyl, automatic
i think a FWD drive shaft is a little worn....120,000miles on the odometer, drives straigth, the CVs are not making any noise and the rubber boots are in good condition......seems to have a funny wobble coming from the right front at 40-50mph on acceleration... let up it goes away..... drive a steady speed its ok..... i can feel a little vibration on acceleration at highway speeds through the steering wheel, pedals......most of the time i can feel a wobble from the right front at 40-50 when accelerating.

1.....its not too bad....its been like that for a whiile.....can i drive it like that a little longer or can it do something to the transmission if i keep driving it like that?
2.....whats wrong?.....


(This post was edited by chas on May 22, 2013, 1:42 AM)


HT
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May 22, 2013, 3:13 AM

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It sounds like the inner C/V joint may be binding under acceleration. It's going to need a new axle if that is the case.


chas
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May 22, 2013, 4:45 PM

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It sounds like the inner C/V joint may be binding under acceleration. It's going to need a new axle if that is the case.


i know it needs an axle and a CV.....i dont have the $$$ to fix it right now....can i still drive it and can it create a transnission problem?


(This post was edited by chas on May 22, 2013, 4:48 PM)


HT
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May 22, 2013, 6:32 PM

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Yes, it can. Your $150 axle can develop into a torn up transmission and if it breaks while cruising, it can take out a whole bunch of things. If you can't afford basic maintenance, I suggest you park it and move onto peddle power.


chas
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May 22, 2013, 11:03 PM

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Yes, it can. Your $150 axle can develop into a torn up transmission and if it breaks while cruising, it can take out a whole bunch of things. If you can't afford basic maintenance, I suggest you park it and move onto peddle power.

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wtf, a worn FWD axle can break while driving?!?!......its not that bad....i keep my car in fair condition maybe better than most..... i was going to get around to it.....could you explain how a mild worn FWD axle can break while driving?


(This post was edited by chas on May 22, 2013, 11:18 PM)


HT
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May 23, 2013, 3:04 AM

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Because the inner plunge joint has a tripod with 3 rollers on it that are binding and not turning free and as soon as one of the bearings lets go, the joint will likely blow apart.


chas
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May 23, 2013, 10:36 AM

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thanks HT.....i have heard FWD cars drive pass me on the road or in a parking lot making clacking noises.....i knew the FWD CV and axle problem was in bad disrepair.....what exactly is happening when the FWD axles and CVs are making these clacking noises when rolling at low speeds?......i have mostly had RWD vehicles.....dont have much experience with FWD.....


(This post was edited by chas on May 23, 2013, 10:38 AM)


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May 24, 2013, 5:15 PM

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Clicking or clacking when cranking the wheel all the way left or right and accelerating is because the outer rezeppa joint has worn out the cup grooves causing the balls to pop in and out. Usually it happens because the boot rips and water and trash get into the joint. The grease also flings out and eventually the balls and cups have no lubrication.

Popping noises caused by the balls riding over the grooves worn inside the cups:








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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on May 24, 2013, 5:29 PM)


Tom Greenleaf
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May 24, 2013, 6:18 PM

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DS - That especially with the animated graphic is a total 10 to show how they work with the pics of how they fail inside - WOW!



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Hammer Time
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May 24, 2013, 6:30 PM

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To clarify..................... That is an outer joint, not the inner joint that is suspected in yours.



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May 24, 2013, 7:01 PM

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Right, but that so well demonstrates what is going on vs a plain "u-joint" so well, - T



chas
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May 25, 2013, 10:55 PM

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discreet, Xllnt, thanks for the nice video.....that is the outer....will a cv joint making these noises create an accident?........
can you get us a video or an exploited view on the inner at the transmission?......

1....will an application of "armour all " or a rubber product extend the life of the rubber boots so dirt, water and trash does not ruin the joint?
2....the 97 camry has a little over 120k.....is it time or about normal to replace at this mileage?...
3...what can be done to extend the life of the boots, axles and CVs?


(This post was edited by chas on May 25, 2013, 11:08 PM)


Tom Greenleaf
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May 25, 2013, 11:31 PM

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Not DS (we call him that) but extending life of boots seems pointless IMO. They are exposed to the elements so you are relying on plain quality of the boot mostly. Outers get the most abuse. Some last ages and some don't.

Already said that when one is declared NG it has to go. I can't put an exact known life expectancy on these things and have seen originals with no symptoms just explode ( a neighbor) without any abuse, shaft fell out/down and the balls of the joint rolling all over the place!

As things go these shafts are not that expensive. Can a total failure cause an accident - have to say yes as who knows if the thing starts whipping around at speed all broken what the heck it could do?

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Hammer Time
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May 26, 2013, 6:03 AM

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I don't know why we are making such a federal case out of a $150 repair.

The car needs a new axle. Replace it and stop looking for ways not to have to.


I have reviewed your past questions and you seem to have a habit of bantering back and forth on the advice you have been given.

Your car needs a new axle and it should be done immediately.


With that I'm going to consider this question closed.



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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on May 26, 2013, 6:16 AM)






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