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chrismr
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I am trying to remove the brake drums on a 2000 Ford Focus. I've replaced drum brakes before but I can't remove the drums on this car. I've backed off the e-brake but the ridge is stuck on the shoes. There is an opening at front center which is not an adjustment that i've tried to move, but to no avail.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Nov 2, 2011, 8:27 AM
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You drove it way too long and grooved out the drums. Now you have to hold the self adjuster away so you can back off the adjustment enough to get them off.
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chrismr
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Nov 2, 2011, 8:56 AM
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There is no access to the adjuster. The groove is bad I know, so what else can done?
Thanks.
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Discretesignals
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Nov 2, 2011, 9:01 AM
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If you trying to get to the brake components, you need to remove the drum with the hub assembly. There are four bolts (66nm) on the back of the knuckle that you take out so you can take the drum off with the hub. If you have ABS, the wiring need to be disconnected.
There is a large nut in the middle of the hub. Do not take that off unless you are planning on replacing or machining the drum. If you do take that off you have to replace the nut that gets torqued to 173 ft/lbs
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How does that get the drums off the shoes?
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I'm planning to replace the drums. Removing the stub hub doesn't solve accessing the shoes as previously noted. I've removed the hub screw but can't remove the drum.
Thanks.
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If there is no way to back off the adjusters, then you have no choice but to force it off and then replace all the hardware along with the brakes.
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Well, if there is a large lip in the drum, you'll have trouble. The drum and hub are integral on that set up. To get the drum off you have to either remove the four knuckle bolts or take the large nut off the spindle.
If you are serving or inspecting the brakes, remove the four bolts and take the spindle off with the drum. If you are machining or replacing the drum, take off the nut. If you take the nut off, you have to replace it. DO NOT REUSE THE OLD NUT
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The point is that he has worn the rivets into grooves and they won't clear the shoes.
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Oopps, I thought you were having trouble getting the drum off the vehicle not the brakes themselves. I'll go back to my hole... 
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Nov 2, 2011, 10:21 AM
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It's my daughter's car, enough said. I'm ready to cut them off. How do mechanics do it?
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We don't cut anything. We just force it off until the hold down pins pull through the washers or break the pins and then replace it all.
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Yup - with ones you just can't back off enough Ive cut the back side of hold-down pins and jocked them off with assorted vehicles. Gotta replace all that broke doing that and best to do both sides of course,
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Nov 3, 2011, 9:04 AM
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Thanks.
I'll do what I got to do. Does anyone have a diagram of the rear brakes showing placement of springs and hardware? I've heard that it's an unusual setup?
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Just a note: Once, just once saw someone cut one off with oxy/acet torch. NOT RECCOMMENDED. Way too many chances of serious destruction,
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Don't go damaging the backing plates. The hardware is cheap, the backing plate is not.
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I think it actually uses different hold down clips
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My source says 00 Hokus Pokus Focus. But Im sure you have the latest & greatest. Either way he's covered. 
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Plead IDK for sure but but can't you just chisel off the back of the "Nail" part of the hold-down however the spring is designed and just let the cheaper hardware break?
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Easy on backing plates. A little prying depending on vehicle OK but not too much. How about a jaw puller? Drum should already be free from hub or work on that first,
T
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Just different method I use if the drum is going to be replaced. I'll take a cutoff wheel & cut a notch out in the frt off the drum to be able to access the adjust.
This one has pretty thick drums so I would probably try prying it off at 1st cuz good cutoff wheels aren't cheap. RWD drums have pretty thin faces so it's alot faster....
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SID, thanks to you have have finger prints all over my screen trying to kill that dog pecker gnat.
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