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chocbeaver
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Jan 9, 2012, 12:23 AM

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Mitsubishi Magna VR-X 2003 Cracked Oil Pan Sign In

Engine: V6
Mileage: 100 000km

I was on a dirt road and hit a rock, cracked the oil pan. Oil light came on, drove for about 10sec then stopped. Engine had white smoke and was making a funny noise. Filled up coolant, left it for 10min, poured water over radiator. Was out of town, so drove about 2-300m t the nearest shop at a crawl. Is the engine damaged?


Hammer Time
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Jan 9, 2012, 4:27 AM

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Let me get your logic here.

You damage the oil pan to the point where you have smoke and noises from the engine.

Now you pour water over the radiator and that somehow will resolve your oil problem.

Then you proceed to drive it this way...........

You've got to be kidding



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Jan 9, 2012, 5:52 AM

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Re: Mitsubishi Magna VR-X 2003 Cracked Oil Pan Sign In


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Let me get your logic here.


What logic? I think logic went out the window a long time ago after the oil pan was cracked. Did you check to see if oil was in the engine? Did you crack the engine oil pan or the transmission oil pan?

I don't understand this part though:


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2-300m t the nearest shop at a crawl.



Is that 2-300 meters or miles?





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Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 9, 2012, 9:54 AM

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If that was METERS than with an oil light blinding you, you should have walked to that shop for help. Never mind possible damage that you needed coolant filled also when especially oil warnings and temperature warnings come on you shouldn't expect much more if you drive it.

Please clarify how far, how long it ran with possibly no oil as yes that could be enough to ruin it,

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chocbeaver
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Jan 9, 2012, 12:29 PM

Post #5 of 19 (2586 views)
Re: Mitsubishi Magna VR-X 2003 Cracked Oil Pan Sign In

The coolant was pretty much full when we filled it up. And I'm pretty sure it was just the oil sump.

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Hammer Time
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Jan 9, 2012, 1:32 PM

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Just the oil sump?

I thought I had indigestion but it turned out to be only a massive coronary.



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chocbeaver
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Jan 9, 2012, 10:57 PM

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Re: Mitsubishi Magna VR-X 2003 Cracked Oil Pan Sign In

I've been told the oil sump is simple to fix?


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Jan 10, 2012, 4:03 AM

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Probably would have been if you didn't drive it without one. The oil pump is the heart of the engine and when your heart stops pumping, you're pretty much screwed. The difference with a car is that you have to ability to shut it off until the problem is resolved.



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chocbeaver
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Jan 10, 2012, 4:56 AM

Post #9 of 19 (2553 views)
Re: Mitsubishi Magna VR-X 2003 Cracked Oil Pan Sign In

So the 200 metre drive would have made serious damage?


Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 10, 2012, 6:34 AM

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You had smoke AND noise (probably knocking from lack of oil pressure) before you first shut it down. That was enough but then drove it more probably hearing it even worsePirate
You mention "sump" ?? If oil pan was damaged enough to harm/destroy the oil pick up is going to make this more trouble to even find out. If it cranks or turns just one second now AND pick up for oil is still expected fine I'd temporarily patch the crack, use any cheap oil and start it for more info on how much damage has occurred. You may not know the extent till fixed and some miles. If oil pressure can't hold well or it smokes, still knocks it's probably game over for that engine or will just be a constant headache fouling plugs, burning oil, wrecking converter.

You don't need to take our word for what to do when you are warned of oil pressure loss just look in your owner's manual that won't say it's over but dang well should say shut down NOW and don't run it more.

It may run again but almost certainly has caused serious damage at best. If it doesn't turn you can pretty much forget it entirely,

T



chocbeaver
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Jan 10, 2012, 5:58 PM

Post #11 of 19 (2534 views)
Re: Mitsubishi Magna VR-X 2003 Cracked Oil Pan Sign In

Thanks for the help. The noise didn't worsen when we drove it again. I just have my fingers crossed the engine hasn't taken too much damage.


chocbeaver
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Jan 10, 2012, 11:54 PM

Post #12 of 19 (2526 views)
Re: Mitsubishi Magna VR-X 2003 Cracked Oil Pan Sign In

Ok, rang up the mechanic then. Something is also wrong with the engine pipe that they need to fix. How bad is that? I got the secretary and she didn't have a clue.


Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 10, 2012, 11:55 PM

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Luck happens. Just don't waste too much $$ finding out. You'll know when it will hold oil and some miles where it's at. Actually if this was some old beat up all iron engine already worn, consuming some oil regularly you'd have a better chance. It's low miles was against you IMO.

Watch it like a hawk for fluid levels and leaks and some time will tell,

T



chocbeaver
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Jan 11, 2012, 12:27 AM

Post #14 of 19 (2522 views)
Re: Mitsubishi Magna VR-X 2003 Cracked Oil Pan Sign In

Ok then, I know I'm pretty lucky (hopefully). The secretary didn't say much about the engine. What is an engine pipe though? After googling it, is it the exhaust one or the pickup pipe for the oil?


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Jan 11, 2012, 1:04 AM

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"Engine Pipe?"

That's pretty vague. Because this hit a rock type thing I can only guess that it's exhaust something. The pick up for oil in pan should be fine (not there so can only guess) if pan wasn't smashed bad enough. Exhaust could either make exhaust noise or if smashed/pinched be a restriction.

Hard to say without looking as this is damage from impact not just routine so looking at it would be imperative to get the best clue as to extent of damage.

Guessing it's still at the shop and I would go down and let mechanic/tech show you what has been found and explain what the problem or best guess fix is,

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chocbeaver
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Jan 11, 2012, 1:21 AM

Post #16 of 19 (2517 views)
Re: Mitsubishi Magna VR-X 2003 Cracked Oil Pan Sign In

Yeah. She said they got the part from the wreckers/dump, so I'm thinking oil pipe from what I've read or can you get the exhaust one from the same place as well?


Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 11, 2012, 1:33 AM

Post #17 of 19 (2514 views)
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IDK - oil pipe? Except for an oil filter the rest is inside for oil. Exhaust could have a pipe to blow fresh air in that was easier to find used than wait or chase down new - just dunno?

Closest you could get is to take a video or pics pointing to what was damaged. Interpretations from a "secretary" may not be the best description so if in doubt or need to know ask to talk to the tech,

T



chocbeaver
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Jan 11, 2012, 8:55 PM

Post #18 of 19 (2496 views)
Re: Mitsubishi Magna VR-X 2003 Cracked Oil Pan Sign In

My grandfather found out, it's apparently it's got something to do with the exhaust and manifold?


Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 12, 2012, 6:24 AM

Post #19 of 19 (2485 views)
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If damage involved exhaust parts let the techs free and fix it or bail out on the whole car,

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