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shawnjeremy
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Nov 25, 2011, 12:52 PM
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engine dies without any codes
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1996
saturn
sl2
1.9 lt.dohc
107,298
starts and runs,but only for awhile like something getting hot then engine dies and cools off and will restart againg without any codes,I have checked the volts on battery,the alt.4 charging,the fan and motor,the fuel pump and for anything noticeable
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Tom Greenleaf
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Nov 25, 2011, 1:19 PM
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Have to catch what is wrong when it's down, fuel pressure perhaps?
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Nov 25, 2011, 1:28 PM
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All "crank, no start" conditions are approached in the same way. Every engine requires certain functions to be able to run. Some of these functions rely on specific components to work and some components are part of more than one function so it is important to see the whole picture to be able to conclude anything about what may have failed. Also, these functions can ONLY be tested during the failure. Any other time and they will simply test good because the problem isn't present at the moment.
If you approach this in any other way, you are merely guessing and that only serves to replace unnecessary parts and wastes money.
Every engine requires spark, fuel and compression to run. That's what we have to look for.
These are the basics that need to be tested and will give us the info required to isolate a cause.
1) Test for spark at the plug end of the wire using a spark tester. If none found, check for power supply on the + terminal of the coil with the key on.
2) Test for injector pulse using a small bulb called a noid light. If none found, check for power supply at one side of the injector with the key on.
3) Use a fuel pressure gauge to test for correct fuel pressure, also noticing if the pressure holds when key is shut off.
4) If all of these things check good, then you would need to do a complete compression test.
Once you have determined which of these functions has dropped out,
you will know which system is having the problem.
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shawnjeremy
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Nov 25, 2011, 1:36 PM
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just thinkin of doing that but it seems like it would not start right back up if that was to be the problem
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shawnjeremy
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Nov 25, 2011, 1:38 PM
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it only does this when engine bay is hot ,wait a few min. to cool diwn and it starts againg more persitit when hot
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Nov 25, 2011, 2:32 PM
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Run the tests I gave you while it's dead the next time.
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shawnjeremy
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Nov 25, 2011, 2:41 PM
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power to all injectors,no spark at end of plug wire but 12vlts @ + side of coil,did not do fuel pressure check yet
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shawnjeremy
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Nov 25, 2011, 2:45 PM
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after restart i got a spark @end of plug wire
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shawnjeremy
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Nov 25, 2011, 2:55 PM
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could the coil packs get hot and shut down?
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Nov 25, 2011, 2:56 PM
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Post back when you have all of the results tested exactly the way it reads.
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shawnjeremy
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Nov 25, 2011, 3:15 PM
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ok thanks
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shawnjeremy
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Nov 26, 2011, 9:27 PM
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 checked all and fouund out it was the cankshaft pos. sensenor,runs great and stronger with new coil packs and control mould.must always listen 2 whom u TRUST,did not need coil packs,nor a mod. but help out n preforomance,love the 1.9lt its tuff
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shawnjeremy
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Nov 26, 2011, 9:30 PM
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no ,not fuel pressure,inght. prom. ,its the crankshaft pos. sensor,all fixed,THANKS
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