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william97lx
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Mar 6, 2012, 4:35 PM
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1997 Accord Lx v6
Left lower ball joint.
Right lower ball joint
tie rod end both of them look like this.
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nickwarner
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Mar 6, 2012, 5:19 PM
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A picture of those parts means absolutely nothing. What matters is if there is play in them. With the car jacked up grab at the top and bottom of the tire. Pry in and out feeling for slop. If there is some, you need an assistant to see if its the ball joints or the wheel bearing. If you grab at the front and rear of the tire and work it that way you will be looking for play in the tie rod ends.
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william97lx
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Mar 6, 2012, 5:29 PM
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I do feel play left to right so its the tie rod end bad? And how do you tell if its the inner tie rod?.. Also i don't feel any play going up and down. but the ball joint looks beat and there a little crack mostly seen in pic1. is it okay to drive?
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nickwarner
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Mar 6, 2012, 5:38 PM
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You can tell if its the inner by watching the outer when the tire is moved to see if the joint moves with it. If so, bad inner. If not, bad outer.If just a bit of play you could drive it to a shop to get fixed. If more than just a bit get a tow. Cheaper than a wreck. If you know someone with a truck or larger SUV you could even get a UHaul dolly for about $60 and haul it yourself.
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nickwarner
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Mar 6, 2012, 6:36 PM
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I knew I was leaving out an important detail. Thanks for pointing that out HT.
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william97lx
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Mar 6, 2012, 6:37 PM
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i don't understand
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nickwarner
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Mar 6, 2012, 6:44 PM
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The car needs to be jacked up by the frame, not under the control arm. If you jack up under the control arm you put pressure on the ball joint and won't be able to feel any play present.
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william97lx
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Mar 6, 2012, 7:22 PM
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No I mean to test inner tie rod
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nickwarner
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Mar 6, 2012, 8:07 PM
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The inner tie rod has a rubber boot covering it and you wson't be able to see the actual joint. So have a helper move the wheel while you watch the outer tie rod. When you see no deflection in the outer joint but play exists you know it must be the inner. Thats all that is left. For the mileage on your car I would replace both on both sides and get it aligned once instead of one part at a time and an alignment each time. If you choose against the alignment for cost reasons please realize it will cost you many times over in the tires you will go through. I had a worn out front suspension myself and chose to replace everything in the steering and suspension. Now I realize this may not be for everyone but I don't have time to deal with one part at a time. I drive a 95 Sububan 4x4. My tires were due to go as well. I did all the work except tires and alignment and it was $2000 well spent. This was a week ago. My truck has never rode this nice and the only tool the front end will need for quite some time is a grease gun. I have a lot more and a lot pricier parts in my front end than yours. But you may wish to ask yourself realistically how good you think your own work will be. You aren't even sure what you are looking at or how it should be tested. I mean this as no insult, thats why you came here for advice in the first place, right? On your car most times you can't get the ball joint seperately. If you could, it would require a ball joint press and adaptors that you don't have anyhow. If it was my car, I would change the whole thing out with new parts and do an alignment. If that is outside your skill level or means many shops offer a free suspension check and you can have an expert eye tell you what you need. If you let them go ahead and do it for you or try to do it yourself thats your choice. If you elect to do it yourself we can walk you through the procedure. Some tools will be involved, and if you don't own them you will need to purchase them or borrow them. You may find it cost-effective to let the pros do it for the cost of the tools involved.
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william97lx
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Mar 7, 2012, 5:22 AM
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2000 wtf. -_- .. I only got 500$ I only got a part time job. Is it more cheaper if I buy the part n have them install it? Tie rod I replaced them less then a year ago  .. I'm going try checking it today
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Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 7, 2012, 8:13 AM
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No - that price was Nick's for doing many parts. Chances are you don't need lots and maybe not anything but perhaps an alignment. Let some shop check the parts if you can't and get a quote.
Not to be hard but if you can't keep the car safe if one or more item is unsafe then figure something as I won't help with allowing UNSAFE vehicles on public roads!
T
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nickwarner
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Mar 7, 2012, 2:20 PM
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Shops won't be agreeable to customer supplied parts if you expect any sort of guarantee on the work.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 8, 2012, 4:29 AM
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Nick - Kinda like bringing a steak into a restaurant and complaining bout it when cooked. A no go with either,
T
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nickwarner
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Mar 8, 2012, 4:41 AM
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Exactly. Its quality control for us if we control the parts. Also if the part fails early we can simply call the vendor and have it warrantied out because the transaction is listed on the shop account. No searching for an invoice to show date of purchase.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 8, 2012, 9:24 AM
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You go guy! I'm long done with biz of any sort but anyone who brought their own parts was ok with me but not responsibility on me if it failed.
If in the trade you know where the best stuff is and not usually chain stores no names from me but watch out for so called bargains out there..............
T
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Hammer Time
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Mar 8, 2012, 10:37 AM
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Don't be surprised if the labor jumps up and any warranty disappears when you offer to supply your own parts
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