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freakTCHB
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Jan 25, 2012, 9:49 PM
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i have a 94' ford tempo GL and i was recently in an accident (i was T-boned). so ive been looking for another car. i found a 94' ford probe GT that needs an engine. i was wondering if the engine out of my tempo will fit into the probe and fit properly?
1994 Ford Tempo GL
basic 2.3L (im pretty sure)
1994 Ford Probe GT
i have no idea what engine it has in it now, probably the factory one, which i think is a mazda 2.0 (wikipedia)
thanks for any help
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Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 26, 2012, 2:50 AM
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No! You aren't even sure what size engines you have so forget it is my suggestion,
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Hammer Time
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Jan 26, 2012, 4:21 AM
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The only thing it can be swapped with is the exact same engine and by the sounds of it, you don't wwant to attempt this yourself.
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seriousfreedom
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Feb 21, 2012, 8:27 PM
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i agree with cars these days there is no simple engine swap cause you have to have the ecm that goes for the engine who knows what else/
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nickwarner
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Feb 21, 2012, 8:32 PM
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Ford engineered the Tempo. Mazda engineered the Probe. Last time the two countries collided a few A-bombs went off. Picture the same thing except in your garage as you pull your hair out on something that will never work. Square pegs don't fit in round holes.
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Hammer Time
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Feb 21, 2012, 8:35 PM
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Not to mention, it would be against federal law to attempt it.
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Hammer Time
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Feb 24, 2012, 7:14 PM
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Making any changes whatsoever in the original configuration as it left the factory is considered emissions tampering. You can swap engines but only with the exact same replacement.
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seriousfreedom
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Feb 24, 2012, 7:16 PM
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oh ok so replacing my inline 6 in my dodge truck and putting in a v-8 would be in violation of that law then??
did not know that thanks for that info
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Hammer Time
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Feb 24, 2012, 7:23 PM
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This is the last post on this. You need to stop hijacking other peoples threads.
Here is the law
The Statute
In the Clean Air Act and the Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990 Congress gave USEPA the authority to regulate mobile sources. In addition to requiring automakers to design automobiles that met increasingly stringent emissions limits, these laws also established provisions to prevent anyone from defeating those modifications. In a letter dated November 14, 1997, Steve Albrink of the Vehicle Programs & Compliance Division of the Office of Mobile Sources of USEPA wrote a letter providing a more accessible interpretation of USEPA's policy than that contained in the official USEPA interpretation, Memorandum 1A (Office of Enforcement and General Counsel, dated June 25, 1974, Mobile Source Enforcement Memorandum No. 1A, SUBJECT: Interim Tampering Enforcement Policy) and subsequent changes to that policy, including fining individuals as well as repair shops. Mr. Albrink's letter states:
The federal tampering prohibition is contained in section 203(a)(3) of the Clean Air Act (Act), 42 U.S.C. 7522(a)(3). Section 203(a)(3)(A) of the Act prohibits any person from removing or rendering inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in any motor vehicle in compliance with regulations under Title II of the Act (i.e., regulations requiring certification that vehicles meet federal emissions standards). The maximum civil penalty for a violation of this section by a manufacturer or dealer is $25,000; for any other person, $2,500. Accordingly, any change from the original certified configuration of a vehicle or engine, or the manufacture or sale of a non-original equipment aftermarket part or system could be considered a violation of section 203(a)(3) of the Act. This would include modifications to the fuel delivery system.
The Policy
So, according to USEPA, pretty much any modification to your vehicle that in any way alters anything from the intake air to the tailpipe exit constitutes tampering. In fact, USEPA has developed an extensive list of specific questions and answers detailing just how extreme this view is.
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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Feb 24, 2012, 7:24 PM)
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seriousfreedom
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Feb 24, 2012, 7:36 PM
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i was just trying to understand what you was sayin about the federal law thing wasnt trying to hijack anyones thread just trying to understand it
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re-tired
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Feb 25, 2012, 10:41 AM
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It is possable to do a legal swap . even a v8 coinverson . but after reading the ENTIRE article , is it really worth it ., it would take a ton of money and time.
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