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Richard c
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Aug 9, 2012, 10:36 PM

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2000 Chevy Astro Allwheel. I put new pads on the front, had one rotor turned. Test: pulled to the right. Reset the pads, still pulled. Installed new calipers: after the third stop, it pulled to the right again.

Haven't changed the hoses.

what's your thoughts?

Thanks Richard


Tom Greenleaf
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Aug 10, 2012, 3:40 AM

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Why just one rotor turned? That alone is going to cause issues. Was that brake worn more than the other? Still always replace parts or if machining a brake rotor or drum do the same to both on that axle.

Hoses can lock pressure inside - that wheel would drag a little or lot. If just hoisted with all wheels off ground that one may drag and felt by hand and you should replace both if found bad,

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Richard c
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Aug 10, 2012, 8:14 AM

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The right wheel is, I believe, dragging. There is heat developing there.
Yes, there was scoring one side on left wheel rotor.

I am thinking damage to a hose, inside acting like a check valve.


(This post was edited by Richard c on Aug 10, 2012, 8:26 AM)


Tom Greenleaf
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Aug 10, 2012, 9:17 AM

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Yes - the flex hose on usually the fronts can do that - behave as a check valve and drag or worse so stuck you can't drive the thing. Which way one will pull if slight can change from the dragging side to the later cooler side.

You've done the calipers and if never the hoses do them anyway but this isn't the way to do brakes as now the pads as new could be damaged on a dragging brake, one rotor turned one not so that will mess it up so IMO you are back to square one again.

Like magic, trying to save a buck on brakes about always costs more. Again - do both sides the same with brakes especially. It's not a joke having a brake failure of course and if one side didn't look as worn as the other the first time that was the clue to do it all and right. Quality for rotors (new) and pads pays back in longer life so cheaper in the long run too. If you want expensive and dangerous see what accidents can do.

Right now you are playing ping-pong with this and it's going to bite you at a minimum as a waste that could have been avoided,

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Hammer Time
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Aug 10, 2012, 9:40 AM

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Maker sure you didn't twist the caliper and kink the hose.



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Richard c
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Aug 11, 2012, 3:24 PM

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Replaced the hose, seems to have taken care of the problem. Hope this helps anyone with the same issue.

I've worked brakes enough to know: you can turn one rotor and/or replace a rotor without a problem. having worked for many years as a mechanic, now retired, It has always been informative even enjoyable to think things out with other mechanics. At times on line we run into fellows who know little and make up for it with arrogance.
Often wrong, never in doubt.

Best of luck!


Hammer Time
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Aug 11, 2012, 4:12 PM

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I've worked brakes enough to know: you can turn one rotor and/or replace a rotor without a problem


That would make you dead wrong and I'm mighty glad you aren't working on anything I own.

That would give you 2 entirely different friction surfaces and totally uneven braking.

I don't know who here your jab was aimed at but maybe you should make that more clear.


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At times on line we run into fellows who know little and make up for it with arrogance.
Often wrong, never in doubt.




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Discretesignals
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Aug 11, 2012, 4:56 PM

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Oh oh. I feel some tension in this thread.





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hudgek
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Aug 12, 2012, 3:08 PM

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I agree with all of the answers posted so far, but will alert you to the possibility that a sliding caliper is not sliding as it should. That would cause very uneven wear to the rotor, and uneven braking. Always service brakes in pairs. Period.


nickwarner
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Aug 12, 2012, 8:36 PM

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Yes, brakes get changed in pairs. I also don't like the tone of disrespect taken. If you were truly a pro at some time you would know that. Its been in every factory service manual since they were written by Henry Ford! Its also common sense. If you would like to disrespect the people who give good advice instead of create death traps, your time here will be short. If you were ever a pro in your life you would have more sense than that, so it sounds like you were the shadetree at your trailer park but quit once the SSI checks started rolling in. Do the rest of the world a favor and don't touch brakes anymore, as apparently after a long and illustrious career you still know about as much as a 16 year old kid about brakes.






 
 
 






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